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In article <13ot3kik0uirid1(a)corp.supernews.com>,
"Richard Knoppow" <dickburk(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> "Ken Hart" <kwhart1(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:fmk8bk$ctl$1(a)aioe.org...
> >
> > "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote in
> > message news:13oqv37s0m22i7e(a)corp.supernews.com...
> > snip
> >> I have a couple of very old Agfa/Ansco paper sample
> >> books. Agfa and Ansco had some very distinctive surfaces
> >> which I think would be completely unacceptable today.
> >> Kodak also had some extreme surfaces but not quite as
> >> destructive to the image. For the most part these highly
> >> textured papers were intended to reduce the amount of
> >> retouching needed on portraits by simply supressing fine
> >> detail. I've seen portraits from the 1930s where so much
> >> soft focus, texture, retouching, has been done as to make
> >> the image nearly generic, i.e., you can't recognize the
> >> person.
> >>
> > I've got an old Kodak Darkroom Dataguide from the 1970's.
> > It has a selection of paper samples bound in it. I knida
> > wish some of those papers were still available, like the
> > canvas-look ones. Might be an interesting change from the
> > usual 'E' and 'F' surfaces.
> At one time Kodak had something like 25 combinations of
> surfaces, textures, and stock tints available. Of course,
> not all combinations for all papers. Some of this went away
> with the introduction of economical color printing methods
> and others due to simple lack of market. There were some
> unique surfaces available in some papers. One famous one was
> Gevaert Gevaluxe Velours which had a velvet surface
> supposedly made with rabbit fur. It looked like a velvet
> painting. The stock tint was ivory and if used for low key
> portraits looked almost like a color print. I've not seen a
> print on this stuff for 40 years.

Yes they hare one day and gone the other :)

--
Reality is a picture perfected and never looking back.
From: Nicholas O. Lindan on
"Richard Knoppow" <dickburk(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote

> I used to ferrotype frequently many years ago but have had trouble with
> modern papers, perhaps the emulsion is too hard.

That's good to know - I haven't been able to
get a good ferrotype finish - and I was
blaming it on the modern me.

--
Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio
Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters
http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm
n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com


From: <jjs> on

"Ken Hart" <kwhart1(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
news:fmk8bk$ctl$1(a)aioe.org...

> I've got an old Kodak Darkroom Dataguide from the 1970's.

So the thread is dead. Are you so friggin clueless that you don't know how
to make a new subject line?


From: David Nebenzahl on
On 1/16/2008 6:11 PM jjs spake thus:

> "Ken Hart" <kwhart1(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:fmk8bk$ctl$1(a)aioe.org...
>
>> I've got an old Kodak Darkroom Dataguide from the 1970's.
>
> So the thread is dead. Are you so friggin clueless that you don't know how
> to make a new subject line?

JJ! Did you forget to take your Geritol this morning? Poor baby.
From: <jjs> on

"David Nebenzahl" <nobody(a)but.us.chickens> wrote in message
news:478ec295$0$1198$822641b3(a)news.adtechcomputers.com...
> On 1/16/2008 6:11 PM jjs spake thus:
>
>> "Ken Hart" <kwhart1(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:fmk8bk$ctl$1(a)aioe.org...
>>
>>> I've got an old Kodak Darkroom Dataguide from the 1970's.
>>
>> So the thread is dead. Are you so friggin clueless that you don't know
>> how to make a new subject line?
>
> JJ! Did you forget to take your Geritol this morning? Poor baby.

Okay for you, ya big baby. Arm wrestling tomorrow at Kennedy's Pub. Eh? :)
Okay, it's not my favorite place, either. A biker bar maybe?


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