From: Julian on
On Jul 31, 12:31 am, Annika1980 <annika1...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 30, 6:02 am, Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
>
> > dmac wrote:
> > > As other's have said in the earlier thread, these 6¢ plastic wonder
> > > caps - first the "Sto-Fen" now the "Fong" all have one thing in
> > > common... The producers are out to make a big buck from those stupid
> > > enough or lazy enough to think this will cure their lighting problems.
>
> > BRAVO! I'm glad another person out here understands this. What's really
> > perplexing is Bret uses a Fong and claims it has improved his photography so
> > it has to be good.
>
> I made no such claims. I said it gives excellent results, much better
> in fact that bounce cards, alcohol bottles, tracing paper, and even
> some other commercial diffusers. I've used all of those tricks and
> more.
> You, and the others who argue the point, claim to know differently
> even though you've never used a LightSphere. Thus, your opinions are
> suspect.
>
> I have no financial interest in touting Gary Fong's product. I tout
> it because it does what it says and I encourage anyone looking for a
> lighting solution to try it. You rag on it only because I tout it,
> not because you have any expert knowledge of the subject.
>
> You are slowly sinking down into the loony Troll Hole with D-Mac.

The curious thing about you Bret, is the way you make wild asumptions
without a shred of evidence to support your statement. You know
absolutely ZERO about me or my equipment yet you make statements as if
you had walked through my studio and done a stock take of all the gear
in it.

Can you tell me now, how you get your foot into your mouth so it's
already there when you open it? Is it something to do with anal thing?
do you sit on it like a lady and take a deep breath with a peg on your
nose? Come on mate, you can share it with us.

Doug

From: Ben Miller on
On Jul 30, 4:31 pm, Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
> Ben Miller wrote:
> >>>http://www.pbase.com/sigphotography/image/82704544(thisroom is
> >>> about 220' long, for reference)
>
> >> Not bad, but you lost intensity and even distribution of the light.
> >> This is the perfect situation for Larry Thong's LightBag! The
> >> LightBag would have evenly lit that room without hotspots or harsh
> >> shadows. And 220' is a spit in the bucket for the LightBag.
>
> > Riiiight. But really, that shot was just fine for the purpose at
> > hand. It wasn't a photo shoot, I only had one light, the SB800, and
> > save for one or two minor instances, the shadows aren't harsh at all.
>
> I wasn't complaining or criticizing the shot, in fact it is very good. You
> just reached the limitations of the flash, that's all I'm saying. The SB800
> is a superior and powerful flash and does a great job for its size. My only
> point is striving to maximize performance and versatility from our flash
> units.

No, I know that. I'm just not buying that an alcohol bottle over a
speedlight is going to evenly and sufficiently light up a hall from
end-to-end that's over 200 feet long...

From: mark.thomas.7 on
On Jul 31, 12:00 pm, Julian <critical2the...(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> ...
> Doug

Umm, "Julian" - meet "Douglas 'Tanglefoot' MacDonald", having the
usual difficulty of forgetting which sock is on which part....


(O:

From: Ben Miller on
On Jul 30, 10:15 pm, Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
> Ben Miller wrote:
> >> Ben Miller wrote:
> >>>>>http://www.pbase.com/sigphotography/image/82704544(thisroomis
> >>>>> about 220' long, for reference)
>
> >>>> Not bad, but you lost intensity and even distribution of the light.
> >>>> This is the perfect situation for Larry Thong's LightBag! The
> >>>> LightBag would have evenly lit that room without hotspots or harsh
> >>>> shadows. And 220' is a spit in the bucket for the LightBag.
>
> >>> Riiiight. But really, that shot was just fine for the purpose at
> >>> hand. It wasn't a photo shoot, I only had one light, the SB800, and
> >>> save for one or two minor instances, the shadows aren't harsh at
> >>> all.
>
> >> I wasn't complaining or criticizing the shot, in fact it is very
> >> good. You just reached the limitations of the flash, that's all I'm
> >> saying. The SB800 is a superior and powerful flash and does a great
> >> job for its size. My only point is striving to maximize performance
> >> and versatility from our flash units.
>
> > No, I know that. I'm just not buying that an alcohol bottle over a
> > speedlight is going to evenly and sufficiently light up a hall from
> > end-to-end that's over 200 feet long...
>
> 200' is stretching it for the LightBottle, but I was talking about Larry
> Thong's newly developed and yet to be released LightBag for which 200' is
> effortless.

Keep us posted...

From: Richard Polhill on
Allen wrote:
> Richard Polhill wrote:
>> Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
>>> dmac wrote:
>>>
>>>> As other's have said in the earlier thread, these 6¢ plastic wonder
>>>> caps - first the "Sto-Fen" now the "Fong" all have one thing in
>>>> common... The producers are out to make a big buck from those stupid
>>>> enough or lazy enough to think this will cure their lighting problems.
>>>
>>> BRAVO! I'm glad another person out here understands this. What's
>>> really
>>> perplexing is Bret uses a Fong and claims it has improved his
>>> photography so
>>> it has to be good.
>>>
>>
>> Well I'm sure Bret's photography can be improved by it. He just has to
>> put it over the lens.
> Apparently, you mistakenly put one over your eyes.
> Allen

Oh he just loves the attention.