From: Joel Nepper on
Hello, i am looking for an jobo ATL3 manual.
Can somebody help me ?

Thanks,

Joe.
From: Peter on
On Jul 30, 5:20 am, Joel Nepper <a...(a)email.lu> wrote:
> Hello, i am looking for an jobo ATL3 manual.
> Can somebody help me ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe.

I don't have one. The Jobo site has some manuals. I don't really
know how different the ATL3 is from the 3. You might look at what
they have:

http://www.jobo.com/jobo_service_analog/us_analog/index.html
From: Darkroom User on

Hi there,

I asked this question about pyro developers on the photobanter website
in a separate thread. For some reason, it seems to have got merged with
the thread about a Jobo atl3.
I am not sure how that happened (sorry). This is where I asked about
pyro.
http://www.photobanter.com/showthread.php?t=114087



Jean-David Beyer;886448 Wrote:
> IanG wrote (in part):-
> Yes there can be advantages and an increase in quality how much
> depends
> on the way you work and the developer you choose.
>
> Pyrocat HD gives finer grain, better sharpness and more tonality than
> D76,-
>
> What does "more tonality" mean?
>
> I cannot believe it means a greater dynamic range, because films, with
> very few exceptions these days, have way more dynamic range than can be
> printed onto photographic papers.
>
>
>
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From: Darkroom User on

David Nebenzahl;886934 Wrote:
>
>
> IanG;886420 Wrote:
> -
> PYROCAT HD GIVES FINER GRAIN, BETTER SHARPNESS AND MORE TONALITY THAN
> D76, ALTHOUGH ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR LF NEGATIVES IT'S ALSO USED FOR
> 35MM &120 NEGATIVES.-
>
> If it gives finer grain as well as better sharpness than D76, then
> it must be good.
>
> [/I][/COLOR]
>
> IT ALSO GIVES WORLD PEACE AND FREE BEER. YOU CAN BE SURE IT IS
> EXCELLENT.[/I][/COLOR]
>
> My sentiments toward pyro as well. Not worth messing with, unless one is
>
> part of the more-exotic-than-thou brigade.
>
>
> -- I am new to the darkroom and my questions concerning pyro are genuine. I
had read on various sites about pyro developers including WD2D, PMK and
Pyrocat-HD. If these developers offer no advantage over standards like
D76, ID11 or XTol, then I will choose one of those instead.

Please help me to learn, rather than post replies that come across as
being sarcastic.
I really do want to try to understand what is good darkroom practice,
such as choosing the right processes and materials. I have many
questions that I want to post here on photobanter.




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From: David Nebenzahl on
On 8/12/2010 12:15 AM Darkroom User spake thus:

> David Nebenzahl;886934 Wrote:
>
>> IanG;886420 Wrote:
>>
>> PYROCAT HD GIVES FINER GRAIN, BETTER SHARPNESS AND MORE TONALITY THAN
>> D76, ALTHOUGH ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR LF NEGATIVES IT'S ALSO USED FOR
>> 35MM &120 NEGATIVES.-
>>
>> If it gives finer grain as well as better sharpness than D76, then
>> it must be good.
>>
>> [/I][/COLOR]
>>
>> IT ALSO GIVES WORLD PEACE AND FREE BEER. YOU CAN BE SURE IT IS
>> EXCELLENT.[/I][/COLOR]
>>
>> My sentiments toward pyro as well. Not worth messing with, unless one is
>> part of the more-exotic-than-thou brigade.
>
> I am new to the darkroom and my questions concerning pyro are
> genuine. I had read on various sites about pyro developers including
> WD2D, PMK and Pyrocat-HD. If these developers offer no advantage over
> standards like D76, ID11 or XTol, then I will choose one of those
> instead.
>
> Please help me to learn, rather than post replies that come across as
> being sarcastic. I really do want to try to understand what is good
> darkroom practice, such as choosing the right processes and
> materials. I have many questions that I want to post here on
> photobanter.

I was being sarcastic, but I do take your concerns seriously. My serious
answer to your queries about pyro developers is really "don't bother".
It's not worth the hassle. You can get wonderful results using any of an
array of readily-available conventional developers. So unless you insist
on doing something peculiar, boutique-y and idiosyncratic, stick with
D-76/ID-11, Microdol-X, Xtol, etc.

By the way, just curious: what's with the strange quoting style you used
(putting previously-quoted material in ALL CAPS, with non-functional
"tags", like [/COLOR])? That in itself is kinda like using pyro. I'm
just saying ...


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