Leica lens on Panasonic subcompact - any good?
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From: Sammy on 12 Jun 2007 13:38 Many years ago we saw Nikon rebrand Nikkormat lenses as Nikkor. It diluted some of the brand value of Nikon but in the end all was ok. Now some Panasonic subcompact digital cameras have Leica lenses. (I've only just noticed but maybe they have done it for a long time.) http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/lumix/fx12_10/leica.html http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/lumix/fx12_10/index.html I can't think Leitz would want to have its name on something which was very average. Is this baby a Leica lens generally better than the lenses on similar cameras?
From: =(8) on 12 Jun 2007 14:20 "Sammy" <no-one(a)no-where.com> wrote in message news:Xns994DBDA653782451E7A(a)127.0.0.1... > Many years ago we saw Nikon rebrand Nikkormat lenses as Nikkor. It > diluted some of the brand value of Nikon but in the end all was ok. > > Now some Panasonic subcompact digital cameras have Leica lenses. (I've > only just noticed but maybe they have done it for a long time.) > > http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/lumix/fx12_10/leica.html > http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/lumix/fx12_10/index.html > > I can't think Leitz would want to have its name on something which was > very average. Is this baby a Leica lens generally better than the > lenses on similar cameras? Leica sets the specifications that Panasonic must follow in order to claim it is a Leica lens. However, Leica does not make the lens Panasonic does. Having owned both a FZ20 and I still own an FZ30 the lenses are very impressive. The same is true for the FZ50, however for it the higher resolution, small sensor and totally crappy noise reduction makes that camera total junk. However, the Leica lenses are fantastic. =(8)
From: Stan Beck on 12 Jun 2007 15:44 An interesting note is that some of Leica compact cameras are almost identical to Panasonic, because that is what they are, with some minor spec changes for Leica. Is it not curious that Panasonic would allow it's cameras to be sold with the Leica name on it? ;-) It's an OEM partnership. -- The smaller the fine print, the less you will like what it says. Stan Beck > From New Orleans to Brandon MS To reply, remove 101 from address. *** "if" <nomail(a)nospam.org.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns994DC74FE77BA3D9(a)212.23.3.119... > "=\(8\)" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote: > >> "Sammy" <no-one(a)no-where.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns994DBDA653782451E7A(a)127.0.0.1... >>> >>> I can't think Leitz would want to have its name on something which >>> was very average. Is this baby a Leica lens generally better than >>> the lenses on similar cameras? >> >> Leica sets the specifications that Panasonic must follow in order to >> claim it is a Leica lens. However, Leica does not make the lens >> Panasonic does. > > According to the blurb on the box, "Leica DC lenses are manufactured > using measurement instruments and quality assurance systems that have > been certified by Leica Camera AG based on the company's quality > standards". I would have thought the lenses were also designed by Leica, > though it doesn't actually state this so I don't know for sure. > > I've certainly no complaints about the lens quality, it's just a shame > they chose to team up with a second-tier sensor manufacturer.
From: Garrot on 12 Jun 2007 18:02 On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:44:15 -0500, "Stan Beck" <stan101(a)neworleansphotographs.com> wrote: >An interesting note is that some of Leica compact cameras are almost >identical to Panasonic, because that is what they are, with some minor spec >changes for Leica. Is it not curious that Panasonic would allow it's >cameras to be sold with the Leica name on it? ;-) > >It's an OEM partnership. Interesting. The sales person at the store was giving me the hard sell by telling me that the Leica lense on the Panasonics is the best there is because Leica make the best lenses. Now I can go back and tell her she is FOS as the lense is not even manufactured by Leica.
From: =(8) on 12 Jun 2007 18:56
"Stan Beck" <stan101(a)neworleansphotographs.com> wrote in message news:CbWdnV4QGK8MavPbnZ2dnUVZ_hisnZ2d(a)comcast.com... > An interesting note is that some of Leica compact cameras are almost > identical to Panasonic, because that is what they are, with some minor > spec changes for Leica. Is it not curious that Panasonic would allow it's > cameras to be sold with the Leica name on it? ;-) > > It's an OEM partnership. > > -- > The smaller the fine print, the less you will like what it says. > > Stan Beck > From New Orleans to Brandon MS > To reply, remove 101 from address. > *** > > "if" <nomail(a)nospam.org.invalid> wrote in message > news:Xns994DC74FE77BA3D9(a)212.23.3.119... >> "=\(8\)" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote: >> >>> "Sammy" <no-one(a)no-where.com> wrote in message >>> news:Xns994DBDA653782451E7A(a)127.0.0.1... >>>> >>>> I can't think Leitz would want to have its name on something which >>>> was very average. Is this baby a Leica lens generally better than >>>> the lenses on similar cameras? >>> >>> Leica sets the specifications that Panasonic must follow in order to >>> claim it is a Leica lens. However, Leica does not make the lens >>> Panasonic does. >> >> According to the blurb on the box, "Leica DC lenses are manufactured >> using measurement instruments and quality assurance systems that have >> been certified by Leica Camera AG based on the company's quality >> standards". I would have thought the lenses were also designed by Leica, >> though it doesn't actually state this so I don't know for sure. >> >> I've certainly no complaints about the lens quality, it's just a shame >> they chose to team up with a second-tier sensor manufacturer. > > Actually not it is not surprising that Panasonic would do that. Especially if they want to use the Leica name which gives them a much more salable camera. The Leica name carries a lot of weight in photography circles. =(8) |