From: tony cooper on
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:50:01 -0500, Shiva Das
<shivadas(a)kashmir-hindu.org> wrote:

>In article <yrydnX8LWNGzS7nUnZ2dnUVZ_sLinZ2d(a)comcast.com>,
> John McWilliams <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Shiva Das wrote:
>> > In article <s2u8i4t4lcvnim9gsnf5i4ji8n07n3igi2(a)4ax.com>,
>> > Eric Stevens <eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:12:59 -0500, Shiva Das
>> >> <shivadas(a)kashmir-hindu.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> In article <rhd8i4lpebmguc91da8eullahl3092no3g(a)4ax.com>,
>> >>> Steve <steve(a)example.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> A good pro will use the right tool for
>> >>>> the job, which could be either depending on the job.
>> >>> This is the correct answer to _every_ "which is better...", "which is
>> >>> best...", "is Nykon better than Cannen..." question.
>> >>>
>> >>> The right tool for the right job, and how well does it fit your hands.
>> >>> No one wants to hear these answers though.
>> >>>
>> >>>> But for general purpose all around shooting if you could only have one
>> >>>> camera and had to make a choice between the D3 and 1DsMkII
>> >>> Oh dear, I'm afraid I'd have to give up photography if faced with that
>> >>> choice. Neither one of those cameras is compatible with this new-fangled
>> >>> stuff called "film" that I use :-)
>> >>>
>> >> You should consider using dry glass plates. I find they are much more
>> >> convenient than the wet collodion process I have been using up till
>> >> now.
>> >
>> > Actually, I have a dry-plate camera which I use as a convenient point
>> > 'n' shoot since it takes so little time and expense compared to my "pro"
>> > Daguerreotype setup... It's also a nice break from breathing mercury
>> > fumes all day.
>>
>> How maddening!
>>
>> You can save a bit of weight, though, by using rigid but thin sheets of
>> plexiglass instead of glass for the plates. You do coat your own, no?
>
>Luxury! We used to DREAM of using Plexiglas ["Perspex" to our British,
>Ozzie, and Kiwi friends]! My mum and dad used to make us get up at four
>o'clock in the morning and steal panes of glass from the mill, then coat
>them before the sun came up, before sending us to school barefoot with
>nowt but two lumps of coal for lunch.
>
>And you try telling kids today ...

There was glass to steal in your neighborhood? Oh, to live in such
luxurious surroundings! When I were a lad we had to rub sand and
ashes between our palms until it formed into glass. Kept our hands
warm, though, so on snowy days we walked to school on our hands 'cause
we had no shoes. We'd fed those to baby brother long ago.



--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Ken Hart1 on

"Shiva Das" <shivadas(a)kashmir-hindu.org> wrote in message
news:K9adnYmGUsUbZ7nUnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d(a)bway.net...
> In article <yrydnX8LWNGzS7nUnZ2dnUVZ_sLinZ2d(a)comcast.com>,
> John McWilliams <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Shiva Das wrote:
>> > In article <s2u8i4t4lcvnim9gsnf5i4ji8n07n3igi2(a)4ax.com>,
>> > Eric Stevens <eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:12:59 -0500, Shiva Das
>> >> <shivadas(a)kashmir-hindu.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> In article <rhd8i4lpebmguc91da8eullahl3092no3g(a)4ax.com>,
>> >>> Steve <steve(a)example.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> A good pro will use the right tool for
>> >>>> the job, which could be either depending on the job.
>> >>> This is the correct answer to _every_ "which is better...", "which is
>> >>> best...", "is Nykon better than Cannen..." question.
>> >>>
>> >>> The right tool for the right job, and how well does it fit your
>> >>> hands.
>> >>> No one wants to hear these answers though.
>> >>>
>> >>>> But for general purpose all around shooting if you could only have
>> >>>> one
>> >>>> camera and had to make a choice between the D3 and 1DsMkII
>> >>> Oh dear, I'm afraid I'd have to give up photography if faced with
>> >>> that
>> >>> choice. Neither one of those cameras is compatible with this
>> >>> new-fangled
>> >>> stuff called "film" that I use :-)
>> >>>
>> >> You should consider using dry glass plates. I find they are much more
>> >> convenient than the wet collodion process I have been using up till
>> >> now.
>> >
>> > Actually, I have a dry-plate camera which I use as a convenient point
>> > 'n' shoot since it takes so little time and expense compared to my
>> > "pro"
>> > Daguerreotype setup... It's also a nice break from breathing mercury
>> > fumes all day.
>>
>> How maddening!
>>
>> You can save a bit of weight, though, by using rigid but thin sheets of
>> plexiglass instead of glass for the plates. You do coat your own, no?
>
> Luxury! We used to DREAM of using Plexiglas ["Perspex" to our British,
> Ozzie, and Kiwi friends]! My mum and dad used to make us get up at four
> o'clock in the morning and steal panes of glass from the mill, then coat
> them before the sun came up, before sending us to school barefoot with
> nowt but two lumps of coal for lunch.
>
> And you try telling kids today ...

This parrot is dead. If you hadn't nailed his feet to the perch, he'd be
pushing up daisies.


From: J. Clarke on
Ken Hart1 wrote:
> "Shiva Das" <shivadas(a)kashmir-hindu.org> wrote in message
> news:K9adnYmGUsUbZ7nUnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d(a)bway.net...
>> In article <yrydnX8LWNGzS7nUnZ2dnUVZ_sLinZ2d(a)comcast.com>,
>> John McWilliams <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Shiva Das wrote:
>>>> In article <s2u8i4t4lcvnim9gsnf5i4ji8n07n3igi2(a)4ax.com>,
>>>> Eric Stevens <eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:12:59 -0500, Shiva Das
>>>>> <shivadas(a)kashmir-hindu.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <rhd8i4lpebmguc91da8eullahl3092no3g(a)4ax.com>,
>>>>>> Steve <steve(a)example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A good pro will use the right tool for
>>>>>>> the job, which could be either depending on the job.
>>>>>> This is the correct answer to _every_ "which is better...",
>>>>>> "which is best...", "is Nykon better than Cannen..." question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The right tool for the right job, and how well does it fit your
>>>>>> hands.
>>>>>> No one wants to hear these answers though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But for general purpose all around shooting if you could only
>>>>>>> have one
>>>>>>> camera and had to make a choice between the D3 and 1DsMkII
>>>>>> Oh dear, I'm afraid I'd have to give up photography if faced
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> choice. Neither one of those cameras is compatible with this
>>>>>> new-fangled
>>>>>> stuff called "film" that I use :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>> You should consider using dry glass plates. I find they are much
>>>>> more convenient than the wet collodion process I have been using
>>>>> up till now.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I have a dry-plate camera which I use as a convenient
>>>> point 'n' shoot since it takes so little time and expense
>>>> compared
>>>> to my "pro"
>>>> Daguerreotype setup... It's also a nice break from breathing
>>>> mercury fumes all day.
>>>
>>> How maddening!
>>>
>>> You can save a bit of weight, though, by using rigid but thin
>>> sheets of plexiglass instead of glass for the plates. You do coat
>>> your own, no?
>>
>> Luxury! We used to DREAM of using Plexiglas ["Perspex" to our
>> British, Ozzie, and Kiwi friends]! My mum and dad used to make us
>> get up at four o'clock in the morning and steal panes of glass from
>> the mill, then coat them before the sun came up, before sending us
>> to school barefoot with nowt but two lumps of coal for lunch.
>>
>> And you try telling kids today ...
>
> This parrot is dead. If you hadn't nailed his feet to the perch,
> he'd
> be pushing up daisies.

Well, o'course it was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that bird down,
it would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent 'em apart with its beak,
and VOOM! Feeweeweewee!


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