From: Stuffed Crust on
In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Neil Harrington <not(a)home.today> wrote:
> He may be "speeches and promises ahead of" every president we've ever had.
> Has he made even a single promise that he hasn't already broken or is now in
> the process of breaking? Other than breaking promises he hasn't done
> anything but speeches and promises so far, and his agenda being what it is I
> only hope he continues at the same rate of non-performance.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

"The Obameter: Tracking Obama's Campaign Promises"

Current scorecard:

Promises Kept: 41
Compromise: 11
Promises Broken: 7
Stalled: 12
In Progress: 91
No action: 354

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From: Pete Stavrakoglou on
"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message
news:6$Y4ZrGSR8pKFAO4(a)phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
> In message <h847ec$skt$2(a)news.acm.uiuc.edu>, Doug McDonald
> <mcdonald(a)NoSpAmscs.uiuc.edu> writes
>>DG wrote:
>>> Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote:
>>>> Came across this article about AP publishing a photo of a dying US
>>>> marine and the controversy surrounding it. There hasn't been much
>>>> news here in the UK about it but I expect that it's big news in the
>>>> US.
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/53173,news,photograph-of-dying-
>>>>marine-joshua-bernard-was-it-right-for-the-associated-press-to-
>>>>publish>
>>>>
>>>> I'm all up for showing how things are and the press have done so on
>>>> may occasions, but at the same time the family must be very upset. So
>>>> I'm in two minds about this. Storm in a tea cup? Or genuine concern
>>>> on showing dead or dying NATO/ISAF soldiers?
>>> What's a photographer supposed to do? Quit shooting in a war zone
>>> because someone might die? If people are upset about the photo
>>>then they should blame the
>>> politicians for the war, not the photographer for the image.
>>>
>>
>>
>>NO! They should blame the scum people who print it against
>>the family's wishes,
>
> Does that go for ALL pictures from war zones?
>
>>and the people who
>>started the war: al Qaeda and the Taliban.
>
> No... They did not start it.

An attack on our soil at the WTC was not the start of the war?


From: Chris H on
In message <h88ss8$d0e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Pete Stavrakoglou
<ntotrr(a)optonline.net> writes
>"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message
>news:6$Y4ZrGSR8pKFAO4(a)phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <h847ec$skt$2(a)news.acm.uiuc.edu>, Doug McDonald
>> <mcdonald(a)NoSpAmscs.uiuc.edu> writes
>>>DG wrote:
>>>> Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote:
>>>>> Came across this article about AP publishing a photo of a dying US
>>>>> marine and the controversy surrounding it. There hasn't been much
>>>>> news here in the UK about it but I expect that it's big news in the
>>>>> US.
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/53173,news,photograph-of-dying-
>>>>>marine-joshua-bernard-was-it-right-for-the-associated-press-to-
>>>>>publish>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm all up for showing how things are and the press have done so on
>>>>> may occasions, but at the same time the family must be very upset. So
>>>>> I'm in two minds about this. Storm in a tea cup? Or genuine concern
>>>>> on showing dead or dying NATO/ISAF soldiers?
>>>> What's a photographer supposed to do? Quit shooting in a war zone
>>>> because someone might die? If people are upset about the photo
>>>>then they should blame the
>>>> politicians for the war, not the photographer for the image.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>NO! They should blame the scum people who print it against
>>>the family's wishes,
>>
>> Does that go for ALL pictures from war zones?
>>
>>>and the people who
>>>started the war: al Qaeda and the Taliban.
>>
>> No... They did not start it.
>
>An attack on our soil at the WTC was not the start of the war?
Not at all.

9/11 was the third in a series of retaliation attacks. The first two
were US embassies in Africa.

They were in retaliation for previous US attacks.

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From: SMS on
Pete Stavrakoglou wrote:

> An attack on our soil at the WTC was not the start of the war?

No.
From: Savageduck on
On 2009-09-09 11:33:49 -0700, "Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> said:

> "Neil Harrington" <not(a)home.today> wrote in message
> news:GrydnS8g_uZ-JzrXnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>>
>> "Giftzwerg" <giftzwerg999(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.25109694840dbcee9897d5(a)news-east.giganews.com...
>>> In article <4aa6c94e$0$1631$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>,
>>> scharf.steven(a)geemail.com says...
>>>
>>>>>> Surely, you aren't suggesting that we "cut and run' are ya?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never suggested this. I think victory in Afghanistan is
>>>>> essential.
>>>>> Fortunately, the new president appears to agree with me 100%.
>>>>
>>>> I think we need to define "victory." The Soviet Union realized that
>>>> Afghanistan was a hopeless case. Bush and his cronies paid far too
>>>> little attention to Afghanistan for political reasons, essentially
>>>> wasting eight years of effort and money. There needs to be a more
>>>> realistic plan.
>>>
>>> Yeah. Whew. I'm all ears. What *is* Obama's "plan?"
>>
>> Obama does not make plans. He makes speeches and promises.
>>
>>>
>>> Exactly.
>>>
>>> On anything.
>>
>> Yes, but look at his inspiring slogans.
>>
>> CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!
>>
>> YES WE CAN!
>>
>> Both of them completely, absolutely, positively 100% devoid of any actual
>> meaning, but look at all the people they have INSPIRED!
>>
>> Don't forget, Obama in one speech so inspired Chris Matthews that the
>> latter said, "I felt a thrill run up my leg!" Now that is really
>> something. How many professional news people get thrills running up their
>> legs?
>
> Calling Chris Matthews a professional news person is an insult to those that
> really are.

Actually Matthews' news career is anchored in the print press. He was a
journalist for 13 years as the Washington bureau chief for the San
Francisco Chronicle.

As for any of the on-camera personalities, right or left, their
separate agendas make all of them suspect.

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Regards,

Savageduck