From: Doug McDonald on
Igetrightwingersangry(a)nospan.com wrote:
>
> ...And if the picture was of you --> and the last memory your children
> would have of you, would it still be okay to publish it?
>
>
>

Yes, absolutely. But I would like for the people showing it to note
that I died to prevent the atrocities perpetrated on the
innocent 9/11 victims from happening again. Absent that,
I would expect my family to point out to my children
how the left wing scum had used my image for their purposes.

Doug McDonald
From: Savageduck on
On 2009-09-07 18:46:25 -0700, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) said:

> Doug McDonald <mcdonald(a)NoSpAmscs.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>> DG wrote:
>>> If people are upset about the photo then they should blame the
>>> politicians for the war, not the photographer for the image.
>>
>> NO! They should blame the scum people who print it against
>> the family's wishes, and the people who
>> started the war: al Qaeda and the Taliban.
>
> That's a rightard lie. It was Bush and the neocons who started the war.
>
>> There is nothing
>> wrong with the photographer taking it ... if the family
>> had agreed, publishing it would have been OK.
>
> The soldier was there on the taxpayer's dime. The taxpayers have the
> right to know how their money is being spent.

As a refugee of the 60's with a draft number of 54, "spent" is not what
I would have said. I would think the term used in my war would have
been more appropriate, "wasted!"

--
Regards,

Savageduck

From: Me on
Doug McDonald wrote:
> Igetrightwingersangry(a)nospan.com wrote:
>>
>> ...And if the picture was of you --> and the last memory your children
>> would have of you, would it still be okay to publish it?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Yes, absolutely. But I would like for the people showing it to note
> that I died to prevent the atrocities perpetrated on the
> innocent 9/11 victims from happening again. Absent that,
> I would expect my family to point out to my children
> how the left wing scum had used my image for their purposes.
>
What's "left wing" about showing war as it is?
Can you see any correlation between peace and left:right politics here?:
http://www.visionofhumanity.org/gpi/home.php
From: ^Tems^ on
Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote:
> Came across this article about AP publishing a photo of a dying US
> marine and the controversy surrounding it. There hasn't been much
> news here in the UK about it but I expect that it's big news in the
> US.
>
> <http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/53173,news,photograph-of-dying-marine-joshua-bernard-was-it-right-for-the-associated-press-to-publish>
>
> I'm all up for showing how things are and the press have done so on
> may occasions, but at the same time the family must be very upset. So
> I'm in two minds about this. Storm in a tea cup? Or genuine concern
> on showing dead or dying NATO/ISAF soldiers?

So why the big deal all of the sudden about a war photo?

Why is any different to old black and white photos of soldiers torn
apart on the battle field of WW1 or the Aussie soldier blindfolded on
his knees with a japanese soldier raising the sword above his head to
decapitate him or images of Jews being executed in front of mass grave
pits or that Viet cong dude being shot in the head.

What about websites like rotten.com or ogrish showing photos of car
accidents or murders, sometime in the futre the families of these
victims may come across them.

We are now in the communication age thanks to the internet, the only way
to stop images like this being published is to ban cameras.

Humans have a morbid curiosity for images like this.


From: stephe_k on
Igetrightwingersangry(a)nospan.com wrote:
>
> ...And if the picture was of you --> and the last memory your children
> would have of you, would it still be okay to publish it?
>
>

Of course I would. Since when is dying for your country something to
hide or be ashamed of?

Stephanie