From: Bill Graham on

"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message
news:4Dw4W1D+EBqKFAkb(a)phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
> In message <CaTmgJe8h$pKFA7+(a)phaedsys.demon.co.uk>, Chris H
> <chris(a)phaedsys.org> writes
>>In message <h88ss8$d0e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Pete Stavrakoglou
>><ntotrr(a)optonline.net> writes
>>>"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message
>>>news:6$Y4ZrGSR8pKFAO4(a)phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>>>> In message <h847ec$skt$2(a)news.acm.uiuc.edu>, Doug McDonald
>>>> <mcdonald(a)NoSpAmscs.uiuc.edu> writes
>>>>>DG wrote:
>>>>>> Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote:
>>>>>>> Came across this article about AP publishing a photo of a dying US
>>>>>>> marine and the controversy surrounding it. There hasn't been much
>>>>>>> news here in the UK about it but I expect that it's big news in the
>>>>>>> US.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/53173,news,photograph-of-dying-
>>>>>>>marine-joshua-bernard-was-it-right-for-the-associated-press-to-
>>>>>>>publish>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm all up for showing how things are and the press have done so on
>>>>>>> may occasions, but at the same time the family must be very upset.
>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>> I'm in two minds about this. Storm in a tea cup? Or genuine concern
>>>>>>> on showing dead or dying NATO/ISAF soldiers?
>>>>>> What's a photographer supposed to do? Quit shooting in a war zone
>>>>>> because someone might die? If people are upset about the photo
>>>>>>then they should blame the
>>>>>> politicians for the war, not the photographer for the image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>NO! They should blame the scum people who print it against
>>>>>the family's wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Does that go for ALL pictures from war zones?
>>>>
>>>>>and the people who
>>>>>started the war: al Qaeda and the Taliban.
>>>>
>>>> No... They did not start it.
>>>
>>>An attack on our soil at the WTC was not the start of the war?
>>Not at all.
>>
>>9/11 was the third in a series of retaliation attacks. The first two
>>were US embassies in Africa.
>>
>>They were in retaliation for previous US attacks.
>
> Then there was the US support of genocide and mass murder in Palestine
> by the IDF.... The US involvement in Somalia. The lack of US
> involvement around Basra in 1991 onwards. There are very many reasons
> for an Islamic Militant group to want hit at the USA. Most had far
> higher civilian death tolls than 9/11.
>
That's right Chris.....We're damned if we do, and damned if we don't. In
fact, there is nothing the US can do that's going to be OK in Chris Hills,
eyes, so you are just wasting your time talking to him.

From: Igetrightwingersangry on
In <jsmdnaA0bb_FxDXXnZ2dnUVZ_hednZ2d(a)giganews.com>, on 09/09/2009
at 06:41 PM, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> said:




>"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message
>news:GqSn8JV7V9pKFAYl(a)phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>> On the other hand.... who asked permission of the victims and families
>> of those in the pictures taken by US Military when they were torturing
>> Iraqi civilians.....

>What nonsense! Saddam Hussein was the one who, "tortured Iraqi civilians"
> and for thirty years, too.

.... And in 30 years he killed fewer Iraqui's then bush did in 5 years.

Now what was your point son?
From: Bill Graham on

"Neil Harrington" <not(a)home.today> wrote in message
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>
> "Stuffed Crust" <pizza(a)spam.shaftnet.org> wrote in message
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>> In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Neil Harrington <not(a)home.today> wrote:
>>> He may be "speeches and promises ahead of" every president we've ever
>>> had.
>>> Has he made even a single promise that he hasn't already broken or is
>>> now in
>>> the process of breaking? Other than breaking promises he hasn't done
>>> anything but speeches and promises so far, and his agenda being what it
>>> is I
>>> only hope he continues at the same rate of non-performance.
>>
>> http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
>>
>> "The Obameter: Tracking Obama's Campaign Promises"
>>
>> Current scorecard:
>>
>> Promises Kept: 41
>
> Sorry, I wasn't counting his promises to union bosses, environmental
> wackos, the pathologically unemployable, white-hating black radicals and
> other perpetually complaining left-wing types. I meant promises to the
> American people as a whole, such as (a) would accept only public campaign
> funds; (b) would make government transparent; (c) would not sign off on a
> "stimulus" bill until the American people had 5 days to read it; (d) would
> go over such a bill line by line and refuse to sign it if it contained a
> single item of pork, and so on.
>
> I should have made it clear that I didn't mean back-room promises made in
> private. My bad.
>
>> Compromise: 11
>> Promises Broken: 7
>
> Those must be the biggies, and I suspect it's still a short count. The "no
> American making less than $250,000 a year will pay A DIME more in taxes,"
> repeated over and over again, is in the process of being broken even as we
> speak.
>
The great grandchildren of today's taxpayers will be paying for it, even if
they only make $2.50 a year........:^)

From: Ray Fischer on
Neil Harrington <not(a)home.today> wrote:
>
>"Stuffed Crust" <pizza(a)spam.shaftnet.org> wrote in message
>news:4aa7f590$0$5657$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>> In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Neil Harrington <not(a)home.today> wrote:
>>> He may be "speeches and promises ahead of" every president we've ever
>>> had.
>>> Has he made even a single promise that he hasn't already broken or is now
>>> in
>>> the process of breaking? Other than breaking promises he hasn't done
>>> anything but speeches and promises so far, and his agenda being what it
>>> is I
>>> only hope he continues at the same rate of non-performance.
>>
>> http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
>>
>> "The Obameter: Tracking Obama's Campaign Promises"
>>
>> Current scorecard:
>>
>> Promises Kept: 41
>
>Sorry, I wasn't counting his promises to union bosses, environmental wackos,

Give it up, bigot. You just hate Democrats and don't really have
any reasons for your hatred.

--
Ray Fischer
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From: Ray Fischer on
Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>Viewers of Fox news get the opinions of the conservatives who comment on the
>news at Fox.

And who consistently misrepresent the facts.

> Few of the other news services have conservative commentators.

If, by "conservative", you mean "ideological fanatics".

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Ray Fischer
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