From: No spam please on
"Shawn" <shawn0706(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> All:
>
> I would like to take picture in airplane cabins.
>
> http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&gbv=2&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=cathay+pacific+business+class&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
>
> Some flights are red-eye, and I would like to use a fast lens to take
> first/business class pictures.
>
> Which of the following lenses sould I use?
>
> http://www.borrowlenses.com/category/nikon
>
> Thanks.

Hello.

I have a 10mm-22mm lens which I'd take along as standard for these shots.
I'd
add a wider-angle prime lens in case the 10mm end of the zoom isn't wide
enough. My final choice of lens would be my 17mm-85mm lens.

In your place, I'd rent Nikon lenses and not third-party lenses.
I enjoy low-light photography and use ISO 2,000 as standard so I would not
expect to use flash.

I'd also contact the PR office of the airline, explain what I wish to do and
see what assistance they can offer. I did this in the past (before 9/11).
The airline and aircraft crew were all very helpful. They might appreciate a
set of photos along with permission to use them.

Good luck.

Roger.





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From: Bruce on
On Mon, 17 May 2010 20:30:05 +0100, "No spam please"
<me(a)spamnotwelcome.org> wrote:
>
>I'd also contact the PR office of the airline, explain what I wish to do and
>see what assistance they can offer.


The OP should expect a one word answer, the first letter being N.

From: Peter on
"Alois Schicklgr´┐Żber" <anonymous(a)not-for-mail.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "Shawn" <shawn0706(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bbd942c4-4368-41f4-9579-0ff029328b19(a)o15g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>> All:
>>
>> I would like to take picture in airplane cabins.
>>
>> http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&gbv=2&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=cathay+pacific+business+class&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
>>
>> Some flights are red-eye, and I would like to use a fast lens to take
>> first/business class pictures.
>>
>> Which of the following lenses sould I use?
>>
>> http://www.borrowlenses.com/category/nikon
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> If I was aboard that flight, I would file a complaint about invasion of
> privacy. The flight attendant will report that to the pilot in chargem and
> you would face sanctions of some sort. The airplane is private property,
> and
> I did not grant third-party permission to violate my privacy.
>


read you airline contract. The airport and plane are places of public
accommodation. You have granted surveillance rights to the airline and
security agencies.

--
Peter

From: C J Campbell on
On 2010-05-16 13:30:09 -0700, Bruce <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> said:

> On Sun, 16 May 2010 10:02:07 -0700 (PDT), Shawn <shawn0706(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> I would like to take picture in airplane cabins.
>> http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&gbv=2&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=cathay+pacific+business+class&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Some
>>
>> flights are red-eye, and I would like to use a fast lens to take
>> first/business class pictures.
>>
>> Which of the following lenses sould I use?
>> http://www.borrowlenses.com/category/nikon
>
>
> Is this an assignment where you have been commissioned by the airline?
> If not you will need to obtain the airline's prior express permission.
> You will also need a release or releases from the airline if you wish
> to sell or publish any of the shots - that includes placing them on a
> personal web site.

I think most lawyers would disagree with that. It depends on use, such
as whether the pictures are taken for editorial or for commercial (i.e.
advertising) purposes.

>
> You will also need to take with you a good quantity of model release
> forms, and ask anyone who is identifiable in any of your shots to sign
> them. The model release grants you the image rights (subject also to
> any agreement with the airline) of those people you photograph and is
> essential if you wish to sell or publish any shots.

Again, probably wrong. At least for editorial purposes. People should
have no more expectation of privacy on an airliner than they would in a
sports stadium, cruise ship, or bus. The rules differ in different
countries, but they are generally pretty liberal in Asia, where people
take cameras everywhere and take pictures of everything.

>
> However, you may find that people are unwilling to sign - for example,
> if you asked me to sign one, I would probably leave you in no doubt
> that I had no intention of allowing you to include me in any of your
> shots. Especially at night, many other people will share that view.

And if someone posted a picture of you on their web site, what could
you do about it, really? Especially if you are in a public place like a
restaurant or airplane and you are not being held up to public
ridicule? And even then, suppose you were right -- what could you do
about it? The photographer is someone who rents his lenses -- obviously
he has no assets. So are you going to sue him and collect, um, nothing?
And which country will hear your suit? His country of residence? Your
country of residence? The country hosting the web site?


--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

From: C J Campbell on
On 2010-05-17 11:00:24 -0700, "Alois Schicklgr´┐Żber"
<anonymous(a)not-for-mail.invalid> said:

>
> "Shawn" <shawn0706(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bbd942c4-4368-41f4-9579-0ff029328b19(a)o15g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>> All:
>>
>> I would like to take picture in airplane cabins.
>>
>> http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&gbv=2&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=cathay+pacific+business+class&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Some
>>
>> flights are red-eye, and I would like to use a fast lens to take
>> first/business class pictures.
>>
>> Which of the following lenses sould I use?
>>
>> http://www.borrowlenses.com/category/nikon
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> If I was aboard that flight, I would file a complaint about invasion of
> privacy. The flight attendant will report that to the pilot in chargem and
> you would face sanctions of some sort. The airplane is private property, and
> I did not grant third-party permission to violate my privacy.

You have confused "private property" with "private place." An airplane,
cruise ship, restaurant, sports stadium, or garden might well be
private property. But they are public places -- open to the general
public. As such, the burden of proof is on you to show that you have a
reasonable expectation of privacy in such places.

The only time any sanctions came into play would be if you or anyone
else disobeyed a flight crew member. Almost all nations have laws
requiring you to obey flight crew members and to avoid interference
with their duties.

Further, the OP made no mention of photographing other people anyway.
Have you ever flown business class or first class on a long flight? For
lots of people it is pretty special -- a trip of a lifetime. They tend
to photograph their own sleeping quarters.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor