From: ASAAR on
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:35:19 -0700, the SMS witling wrote:

>> Hello, ASAAR:
>>
>> You >did< nail Steven M. Sharf, on that one! DSLR's aren't exactly
>> lacking for "real estate," where AA cells are concerned.
> . . .
>
> Never buy a D-SLR that doesn't use Li-Ion packs.

I've seen this movie before. When ridiculous words were put into
the mouth of Linda Blair's character in The Exorcist, it really
wasn't her fault. What's your excuse? Does extreme bias kill
neurons?

From: Ron Hunter on
ASAAR wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:08:34 GMT, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>
>>> That gives you 12 eneloops for $26.49, a fair price, but not a very
>>> good price. If you have no use for all 8 AA and 4 AAA cells, that
>>> makes it an even poorer deal unless you can sell some to a friend.
>> 12 eneloop batteries for $26.49 is a VERY GOOD price. Where can
>> you find them for less in either AA or AAA? Like I said, about the
>> best price I have seend for 8 is $19.99 from Amazon which is about
>> $29.99 for 12 batteries ... about $2.50 more.
>
> I haven't seen better prices in the few stores I've seen them in,
> but I believe that a number of people have posted messages saying
> that they've seen or bought eneloops or Hybrids for a lower price.
> Perhaps Walmart. As others have said, WalMart's prices vary from
> store to store, and I have no local WalMarts. But as I indicated,
> even if you consider slightly more than $2/cell to be a very good
> price, it may not be if you're forced to buy many more than can be
> used. Some may have a use for that many, but others would have to
> go out of their way to put them all to good use. For example, I
> have a clock and a couple of remotes that use AAA batteries, but
> even though an eneloop would work well in them I wouldn't use them
> in these devices, since much cheaper alkalines would work just as
> well, and only need to be replaced every two or three years. If the
> Costco deal was available with 12 AA eneloops instead of 8 AAs and 4
> AAAs for that price I'd find it more appealing. YMMV.
>

I would too. Getting 4 AA batteries for the same price as 4 AAA
batteries is always a good value!
Perhaps there should be more package choices...
From: Ron Hunter on
SMS wrote:
> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>
>> Most lower capacity batteries claim 1000 cycles, so I suspect it has
>> nothing
>> to do with the charger; afterall, the vast majority of people out
>> there will
>> NOT be using the Sanyo Eneloop charger.
>
> But the maximum cycles that are batteries are based on the ideal
> charging regimen, so it would not be unreasonable for Sanyo to base
> their claim on using the eneloop charger.
>
> The other brands tend to use weasel statements, i.e. "In absolute best
> conditions, NiMH batteries can last up to 1000 recharges."
>
> Of course "up to" is a weasel statement already, but they even qualify
> it with "In absolute best conditions."
>
> Look at "http://www.mpoweruk.com/nimh.htm" where they say up to 3000
> cycles have been demonstrated, though the typical cycle count is around
> 500.

Still, compared with regular NiMH batteries, 500 charges from an Eneloop
battery would be better than 1000 from a regular NiMH battery, at least
the way I use the batteries.
From: Ron Hunter on
ASAAR wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:35:19 -0700, the SMS witling wrote:
>
>>> Hello, ASAAR:
>>>
>>> You >did< nail Steven M. Sharf, on that one! DSLR's aren't exactly
>>> lacking for "real estate," where AA cells are concerned.
>> . . .
>>
>> Never buy a D-SLR that doesn't use Li-Ion packs.
>
> I've seen this movie before. When ridiculous words were put into
> the mouth of Linda Blair's character in The Exorcist, it really
> wasn't her fault. What's your excuse? Does extreme bias kill
> neurons?
>

I surely hope not. If so, MANY of us wouldn't have any left!
From: ASAAR on
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:06:29 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote:

>> I've seen this movie before. When ridiculous words were put into
>> the mouth of Linda Blair's character in The Exorcist, it really
>> wasn't her fault. What's your excuse? Does extreme bias kill
>> neurons?
>
> I surely hope not. If so, MANY of us wouldn't have any left!

<g> I guess that your reply shows that you still have a
sufficient reserve. :)