From: Thomas T. Veldhouse on
SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote:
> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>> SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote:
>>> In any case, the statement on the web site is accurate. It's an AA
>>> problem, not a chemistry issue of NiMH versus Li-Ion or Li-Po.
>>>
>>
>> It is 100% inaccurate. It is not an AA problem, it is a problem with the
>> door. I have seen poor engineering battery doors of all sorts of products
>> using all differing battery form factors. Do not attribute to the battery
>> that is 100% the fault of the device engineering.
>
> Okay, while I think you're being deliberately obtuse, let's just say
> that i's a design problem that is indirectly related to the type of
> battery the manufacturer has chosen to use.

Let's not. It is a design problem with a battery door. The type of battery
is irrelavent beyond the fact that the door was not engineered to handle
typical usage of the battery replacement ... no matter what type of battery
that might be.

You have been on a campaign against AA form factor batteries [in cameras] for
some time now. It is not the responsibility of the battery to make sure it is
put into a camera with a good door. You draw a conclusion [that AA a cause of
the door failure] that is not true.

So, you wear pants eh? Does the nylon zipper wear out if you have to urinate
often? If so, do you blame it on your penis or your bladder because the
zipper failed? I hate to be crude, but it seems it is about the only analogy
that is going to get through to you.

--
Thomas T. Veldhouse

We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the
machinations of the wicked.

From: Thomas T. Veldhouse on
Ron Hunter <rphunter(a)charter.net> wrote:
>
> I would too. Getting 4 AA batteries for the same price as 4 AAA
> batteries is always a good value!
> Perhaps there should be more package choices...

Every place that I look for these types of batteries, the AAA and AA batteries
are sold at the same price.

--
Thomas T. Veldhouse

We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the
machinations of the wicked.

From: SMS on
Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:

> You have been on a campaign against AA form factor batteries [in cameras] for
> some time now.

No I haven't. Several of the cameras I routinely recommend use AA
batteries, including the Canon S5 and the Canon A630. For ultra-compact
cameras it's moot as they all use li-ion batteries.

> It is not the responsibility of the battery to make sure it is
> put into a camera with a good door. You draw a conclusion [that AA a cause of
> the door failure] that is not true.

No, the conclusion I draw is that the use of AA batteries almost always
implies a less reliable design. I never said that it is the fault of the
batteries.

> So, you wear pants eh? Does the nylon zipper wear out if you have to urinate
> often? If so, do you blame it on your penis or your bladder because the
> zipper failed? I hate to be crude, but it seems it is about the only analogy
> that is going to get through to you.

Very weak. Surely you can do find a better analogy than that, but maybe not.
From: SMS on
Ron Hunter wrote:

> Still, compared with regular NiMH batteries, 500 charges from an Eneloop
> battery would be better than 1000 from a regular NiMH battery, at least
> the way I use the batteries.

Agreed.

In reality, most people will get far more life out of an Eneloop because
they'll be charging them a lot less.
From: SMS on
Ron Hunter wrote:

> I would too. Getting 4 AA batteries for the same price as 4 AAA
> batteries is always a good value!
> Perhaps there should be more package choices...

I want more AAAs! I put four into a remote, then two into two MP3
players my kids have use one AAAs.