From: John Turco on
SMS wrote:
>
> John Turco wrote:
> > SMS wrote:
>
> >> What you should do is to order the following product:
> >> "http://www.ownuser.com.tw/e_K100D_1.htm". This will allow you to use
> >> Li-Ion battery packs.
> >
> >
> > Hello, Steven:
> >
> > Thanks, but, I'll pass. ;-)
>
> The Li-Ion battery advantage is one reason to get the vertical grip, but
> even back in the days of film SLRs the vertical grips were very popular
> because they make shooting in portrait mode much easier. If you don't
> mind the added bulk, and do a lot of portrait mode shooting, definitely
> spring for the vertical grip even if you don't care about the extra
> battery capability.


Hello, Steven:

Oh, but, I >do< "mind the added bulk." The Pentax K100D is my first DSLR
and it's, already, the biggest and heaviest digital camera I own, by a
good margin.


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur(a)concentric.net>
From: John Turco on
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:
>
> SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote:
> >> Pentax isn't among the "top tier manufacturers," in your opinion?
> >
> > Canon and Nikon are the top tier. Olympus, Pentax, and Sony (formerly
> > the Konica-Minolta D-SLRs) are second tier.
>
> Defined by what? Market share? Mind share? Revenue?
>
> Who decided the cutoff between first and second tier?


Hello, Thomas:

If Pentax and Olympus are "second tier" outfits, I shudder to think
where Sigma ranks! <G>


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur(a)concentric.net>
From: John Turco on
SMS wrote:

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> Actually nothing has changed much from the days of film SLRs. Olympus,
> Pentax, and Minolta were always considered second tier.


Hello, Steven:

Only by Canon, Nikon and their fanatical followers! ;-)


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur(a)concentric.net>
From: SMS on
John Turco wrote:

> Hello, Steven:
>
> Well, Canon, itself, wasn't always "top tier," either.

Yes, you are absolutely right. It was the switch to the EOS system in
1987 that propelled Canon into the top tier, ahead of Nikon in many ways
that Nikon still can't match with their lens mount.

> as Pentax's equipment can match the "Big Two" in quality, if not
> in breadth.

Pentax, Sony, and Olympus will occasionally have an excellent product,
but they lack the depth and breadth of the top tier manufacturers.
There's no upgrade path for the amateur looking to become a pro or
semi-pro except with Canon or Nikon. Of course this may not matter much
to most users, and the big volumes are in the low-end.
From: SMS on
John Turco wrote:
> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:
>> SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote:
>>>> Pentax isn't among the "top tier manufacturers," in your opinion?
>>> Canon and Nikon are the top tier. Olympus, Pentax, and Sony (formerly
>>> the Konica-Minolta D-SLRs) are second tier.
>> Defined by what? Market share? Mind share? Revenue?
>>
>> Who decided the cutoff between first and second tier?
>
>
> Hello, Thomas:
>
> If Pentax and Olympus are "second tier" outfits, I shudder to think
> where Sigma ranks! <G>

LOL, Sigma is a non-player in SLRs. The development of the SD9, SD10,
and SD14 were almost certainly funded by an outside source, and the
sales were so low that ranking them would be irrelevant.