From: Bill Graham on

"Allen" <allent(a)austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> David Ruether wrote:
>> "Walter Banks" <walter(a)bytecraft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4AABFA0C.7A417C71(a)bytecraft.com...
>>> Bill Graham wrote:
>>
>>>> In my world, yes, yes, yes. Everyone (all 300 million of us citizens)
>>>> should
>>>> have a government ID card, and/or a chip implanted in us that
>>>> identifies us
>>>> as US citizens in good standing, and if we are sick, then the chip
>>>> should
>>>> get us the treatment we need. Today's technology is more than adequate
>>>> to
>>>> accomplish this.
>>
>>> Well put
>>
>> I trust you two are joking... Talk about ultimate "socialism", ultimate
>> government control over its citizenry, and just plain obvious potential
>> for the development of ultimate nightmare despotism... THINK!!!
>> (Sheesh!)
>> --DR
> They can't think, David. I'm sure that they were among the idiots who
> didn't think the children of this country should listen to a talk about
> the value of education. The leaders of their group realize that the only
> way that group can survive is with an uneducated and uninformed majority.
> Allen

Well, if the government would stop stealing my money and giving it away to
anyone who happens to wander across our borders, then we wouldn't need such
a thing......but, alas.......

From: Twibil on
On Sep 13, 11:07 pm, John A. <j...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
> Why am I reminded of a Jack Benny routine?

Dunno.

Jack Benny was funny.
From: Bill Graham on

"Chris Malcolm" <cam(a)holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> In rec.photo.digital David Ruether <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Walter Banks" <walter(a)bytecraft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4AABFA0C.7A417C71(a)bytecraft.com...
>>> Bill Graham wrote:
>
>>>> In my world, yes, yes, yes. Everyone (all 300 million of us citizens)
>>>> should
>>>> have a government ID card, and/or a chip implanted in us that
>>>> identifies us
>>>> as US citizens in good standing, and if we are sick, then the chip
>>>> should
>>>> get us the treatment we need. Today's technology is more than adequate
>>>> to
>>>> accomplish this.
>
>>> Well put
>
>> I trust you two are joking... Talk about ultimate "socialism", ultimate
>> government control over its citizenry, and just plain obvious potential
>> for the development of ultimate nightmare despotism... THINK!!!
>> (Sheesh!)
>
> The problem is that right thinking is only permitted when its
> conclusions agree with gut feelings. As the disorder progresses the
> origins of the gut feelings move downwards amd the victime starts
> shouting at the TV during news programmes. Once the gut feelings have
> reached the last half of the large colon the condition is
> incurable. The only teatment is palliative care such as watching Fox
> News.
>
> --
> Chris Malcolm

It's a forced action....As long as the liberals are giving my money away,
the least I can expect is that they give it to my fellow Americans.

From: Bill Graham on

"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message
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>
> What has some local inter-party politics of a foreign country got to do
> with photography?
>
>
> In message <EKWdnfDeK_e0TTXXnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d(a)supernews.com>, Larry Thong
> <larry_thong(a)shitstring.com> writes
>>It seems the meaning and value of the word "apology" has been watered down
>>to now mean "I'm sorry I got caught for doing whatever I did but was very
>>happy doing it up and till the point I got caught." It's sad that this
>>practice is commonplace with business's, politicians, investment brokers,
>>religious figures, criminals alike.
>>
>>Good ole boy Joe Wilson, a Republican, called out "you lie" during Obama's
>>speech and shortly apologizes after getting called out over it. It's sad
>>to see these juvenile actions taken by Wilson and the Republicans when
>>everyone knows Obama is very passionate and takes seriously the problem of
>>health care reform. He is the only President in history that is actually
>>doing something about removing the waste and corruption in the health care
>>system. Give Obama a round of applause!!!
>
I think I'll wait until I get the bill from my bypass op, thanks....Assuming
I am still alive.

From: Bill Graham on

"Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
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> On 2009-09-13 08:52:24 -0700, C J Campbell
> <christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmail.com> said:
>
>> On 2009-09-11 17:07:12 -0700, John A. <john(a)nowhere.invalid> said:
>>
>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:54:37 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "wrbrown13" <wrbrown3(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:xz99h2s243hc$.9skloajqavx8.dlg(a)40tude.net...
>>>>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:36:20 -0700, Bill Graham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bob G" <mrbobjames(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:adbcdb79-6c7f-4021-8fc0-3adf608d7083(a)w10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> Republicans would rather get jerked around by the corporations than
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> the government. Wait until you get a horrible diseaase and your
>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>> insurance company drops you like a hot potato.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The fact is that this nation is now an oligarchy (and has been for
>>>>>>> some time) and not a democracy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does that go, from the corporations, by the corporations, and
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the corporations?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is what litigation is supposed to correct.....You still have the
>>>>>> right
>>>>>> to sue. But I never said that government couldn't regulate. Your
>>>>>> health
>>>>>> insurance policy should list the stuff it doesn't cover, in large ten
>>>>>> point
>>>>>> type.......I would vote for a law like that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now there's a thought. Sue a large corporation who has any number of
>>>>> lawyers on their staff and can drag litigation out intil you don't
>>>>> have a
>>>>> penny to your name. Great in theory, but a joke in reality.
>>>>
>>>> They usually settle out of court. Why? Because juries are very
>>>> sympathetic
>>>> to the little guy, and have been known to award many millions of the
>>>> big
>>>> companies money to him.
>>>
>>> Actually, juries have very good "bullshit detectors" by and large, and
>>> it's very rare for a frivolous or fraudulent malpractice suit to
>>> succeed. Any little guy vs big guy sympathies are balanced by the
>>> pleasure to be had in sending a con packing. Seriously, the whole idea
>>> that's been going around of capping awards in these cases serves no
>>> one near as well as the *real* incompetent and/or reckless medical
>>> professionals who will save money but who should be out of the
>>> business entirely. Hey, if folks are hell-bent on capping rightfully
>>> won awards, I guess they will, but let's have some professional
>>> repercussions to weed out the real bad doctors, nurses, etc. and keep
>>> them out.
>>
>> The trouble is that most cases never go to trial. The insurance companies
>> nearly always settle for something, because the cost of defending is
>> greater than the cost of paying something on even the most frivolous
>> claim. That raises insurance rates for everyone, plus it encourages
>> medical professionals to practice exceedingly defensive medicine.
>
> That is true in many areas.
> In Law enforcement for example a cost analysis is always conducted in the
> case of Citizen Complaints headed to Court, and settlements are offered.
> Mainly due to Court costs exceding any value to succesful defense.
> I know of many peace officers accused of various transgressions, false or
> otherwise, in Citizen Complaints, who protested they were unable to clear
> their reputation in Court due to a settlement, even when there is clear
> evidence they were falsely accused, and they have been cleared via
> internal investigation.
>
Yeah.... The Portland police gunned a guy down last year who was stark
naked. and they were "cleared via internal investigation" That government
organization is as crooked as our congressmen......