From: Twibil on
On Sep 14, 12:34 am, "Bill Graham" <w...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Talk about stereotyping......I'm sorry to inform you that my conservative
> friends can think circles around the liberals around this neck of the
> woods....Especially when it comes to logic.

Not to mention self-aggrandizing hyperbola.
From: Twibil on
On Sep 14, 12:40 am, "Bill Graham" <w...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Here's a free hint: everything you dislike isn't automatically
> > "socialist" or "communist".  Those words have real definitions, and
> > using them the same way some folks yell "NAZI!" at anyone they dislike
> > only devalues the words and convinces everyone who has even a marginal
> > grip on reality that you don't.
>
> Its a category I put those into who are afraid to make any decisions for
> themselves.

But that category has *nothing* to do with either Socialists or
Communists.

And how in the World do you expect to win any respect for your
position if you insist on playing Humpty-Dumpty and defining words to
suit only yourself?

> They want the government to do it for them, so they can't be
> accused of screwing up if things don't turn out so well. They are afraid to
> choose their own educations, get their own jobs, and make their own
> investment decisions for their own retirement. It's so easy to just let the,
> "wise old government " do it all for them. Then, if things don't go so well,
> their hands are clean.
>  And why don't I want to go along with this? - It's called slavery, baby.

No, it isn't. (Just like your category of people who don't want to
make their own decisions has nothing to do with either Socialism or
Communism.)

In every society on record -Capitalist, Communist, Semi-Socialist,
Democratic Republic, or What-Have-You, there have always been a few
movers and shakers and a whole bunch of folks who are just along for
the ride and who are content to let others take the risks.

That's simply human nature, and it has nought to do with any political
syatem.

> I want to be free. Even if it means I stand a chance of screwing up.

Even in a dictatorial society such as the former Soviet Union there
are still free men who will stand up and be counted (Alexander
Solzenitzen comes to mind), and nothing in America's future looks to
be anything at all like the now fortunately defunct Soviet Union.

Unless, of course, the far right wing fruitcakes get their way and
surpress everything that they dislike: which is pretty much everything
that doesn't come out of their own mouths.

And that ain't "freedom" an anyone's book, Bunkie.

From: Twibil on
On Sep 14, 11:16 pm, "mikey4" <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote:
>
> >>Yes.....We, conservatives don't like to be part of a group.
>
> > LOL!  That's why all the "conservatives" dance to whatever tune the
> > O'Reillys and Limbaughs are playing.
>
> And all liberals dance to their tune as well.

Excuse me?

You seem to having a bad acid trip there, so just lie back and relax
for a while, listen to the music, and have a few beers.

Everything will look better in the morning.
From: Bob Larter on
Doug Jewell wrote:
> Larry Thong wrote:
>> It seems the meaning and value of the word "apology" has been watered
>> down to now mean "I'm sorry I got caught for doing whatever I did but
>> was very happy doing it up and till the point I got caught." It's sad
>> that this practice is commonplace with business's, politicians,
>> investment brokers, religious figures, criminals alike.
>>
>> Good ole boy Joe Wilson, a Republican, called out "you lie" during
>> Obama's speech and shortly apologizes after getting called out over
>> it. It's sad to see these juvenile actions taken by Wilson and the
>> Republicans when everyone knows Obama is very passionate and takes
>> seriously the problem of health care reform. He is the only President
>> in history that is actually doing something about removing the waste
>> and corruption in the health care system. Give Obama a round of
>> applause!!!
> Don't you think it is kind of hypocritical that on the one hand Obama
> supports socialised health care so that the poor have access to
> life-saving medical procedures, and yet on the other hand he supports
> partial-birth abortions?

Don't you think it's kind of hypocritical that on the one hand
right-wingers oppose abortion, calling it murder, and yet on the other
hand, they support the death penalty?

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From: mikey4 on

"Twibil" <nowayjose6(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 14, 11:16 pm, "mikey4" <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote:
>
> >>Yes.....We, conservatives don't like to be part of a group.
>
> > LOL! That's why all the "conservatives" dance to whatever tune the
> > O'Reillys and Limbaughs are playing.
>
> And all liberals dance to their tune as well.

Excuse me?

You seem to having a bad acid trip there, so just lie back and relax
for a while, listen to the music, and have a few beers.

Everything will look better in the morning.

Why should you be excused? You've had good acid trips?
Are you claiming that liberals don't dance?