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From: Bill Graham on 10 Sep 2009 17:21
"David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message
> "Bob G" <mrbobjames(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> What he said was a lie, the health care will be provided to all tax
>>> payers and illegals are covered under the tax law so will receive free
>>> health care. Unless it was added all of the bills that have passed did
>>> not exclude illegals.
>> I don't know. Have we so lost our humanity that we think illegals are
>> animals? It's pathetic to hear a President promise to deny health care
>> to some people in order to appease Republicans.
> Yes - and that health care would not be "free" in any case, as it now is
> for many who currently (and expensively for the rest of us) use emergency
> room facilities in lieu of having a regular (and far less expensive) GP.
> As a tax-payer and health-care payer, I would much prefer to cover a
> $100 GP visit than a $1000 ER visit for an "illegal" concealed inside my
> bills. And I would also prefer that a communicable desease or potentially
> very serious and expensive condition be caught early through good care.
> It is short-sighted to see this in "us vs. them" terms when universal
> health care, including preventive care, helps us all. Or, for those
> single payer health care (which is what SS Medicare is - and most are
> VERY happy with that, and its administrative costs are a small fraction
> of those of private insurance), look at the statistics. In EVERY country
> that has a single-payer system of health care, the average life span is
> greater than ours(!), and the cost of the health care system is less than
> ours(!). Yet the "know-nothings" hide their heads in the sand and mutter
> idiotic things like, "socialism"...
So you think that the only way to improve our health care system is to
socialize it? You are ready and willing to completely give up on any and all
ideas to have a decent privatized health care system here in the US? Why not
give real capitalism a chance? If you were an MD, would you really want to
work for the government? How about a law that makes everybody have a health
insurance policy, together with opening up the insurance companies to cross
state lines and sell their policies to anyone who applies for one? A real
free enterprise system, IOW.
From: Bill Graham on 10 Sep 2009 17:38
"SPAM.WATCH" <fart(a)thefreakspeechsore.com> wrote in message
> USA is both the third largest nation, and yet is still a third rate
Easy to say by someone who has never been both here and overseas. I have
been to most continents, and I can tell you that I am now living (Salem,
Oregon) in one of the best places in the world. The weather is beautiful,
trees everywhere, and our supers are overflowing with fresh fruits and
veggies, and wonderfully fresh meats, too. My health care is top drawer all
the way, too. I am one hour's drive from the Pacific ocean, and about an
hour in the other direction to mountains and great skiing. I am an amateur
musician and there are so many good bands in this area that I have trouble
deciding which ones to participate in. I could play anything from classical
to Dixieland every night of the week. I have been to Europe, Australia, and
Japan and China, and there has been no place where the living is as nice as
I have it right now. My only real fear is that the liberal socialists will
trash it for my grandchildren. But I have lived top drawer all the way.
From: Bill Graham on 10 Sep 2009 17:56
"Bowser" <up(a)gone.now> wrote in message
> "George Kerby" <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> On 9/10/09 5:08 AM, in article
>> EKWdnfDeK_e0TTXXnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d(a)supernews.com, "Larry Thong"
>> <larry_thong(a)shitstring.com> wrote:
>>> It seems the meaning and value of the word "apology" has been watered
>>> to now mean "I'm sorry I got caught for doing whatever I did but was
>>> happy doing it up and till the point I got caught." It's sad that this
>>> practice is commonplace with business's, politicians, investment
>>> religious figures, criminals alike.
>>> Good ole boy Joe Wilson, a Republican, called out "you lie" during
>>> speech and shortly apologizes after getting called out over it. It's
>>> to see these juvenile actions taken by Wilson and the Republicans when
>>> everyone knows Obama is very passionate and takes seriously the problem
>>> health care reform. He is the only President in history that is
>>> doing something about removing the waste and corruption in the health
>>> system. Give Obama a round of applause!!!
>> He really didn't lie.
>> By the time The Anointed One gets finished, there will no such thing as
>> illegal aliens. Open borders for all!!! More DemoCrap voters is an
> I agree. If this country ever had a republican president and a cooperative
> republican congress, spending would come to a halt, the budget would be
> balanced, and the borders would be closed, as well as English being
> installed as our national language.
> Oh, wait...
If you were to replace the word, "republican" with the word, "conservative"
in the above paragraph, then the meaning would change completely. Bush may
have been republican, but he was no conservative.
From: Walter Banks on 10 Sep 2009 17:55
Bill Graham wrote:
> Maybe us Republicans are tired of hearing the Liberals want to solve all the
> problems in the world, using our money to do it with?
Why do the Republicans spend more than Democrats with money they
don't have? There rhetoric doesn't match the reality. :)
Give the coffee a couple minutes then my inhibors should hold.
From: Walter Banks on 10 Sep 2009 18:09
C J Campbell wrote:
> The Democrats are shocked -- shocked! -- that anyone would treat a
> President so disrespectfully.
The real shock last night came afterwards when congressmen of
both stripes started to realize and verbalize that acrimonious
behaviour had crossed the line.
The image of a country whose congressional leaders behaved like
a pack of unruly teenagers rather that leadership roles that they
were elected to serve.
Leadership requires taking political risks and betting personal
reputations, the stuff that mature people respect.