From: Bob Larter on
stephe_k(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> Bill Graham wrote:
>
>> We have been over this ground too many times already. Let's just look
>> at the present and near future.
>
> Well you might need to look at what Obama was handed by GWB before you
> try to blame him for where we are.
>
>> How can any good come out of spending several trillion dollars right now?
>
> Have you looked around the world? We are NOT the only Gov pumping money
> into their economy trying to avoid a Depression.

Yep. In Australia, the government pumped a ton of cash into stimulus
payments for just about everybody, & told us to go spend it. We did, &
it kept us out of a recession by the skin of our teeth. In fact, we're
the only G20 nation that has avoided recession. The only thing Obama has
done wrong is not give /enough/ money to people who'd go straight out &
spend it.


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From: Bob Larter on
Bill Graham wrote:
>
> "Bob Larter" <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4ab10bc3$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> Bill Graham wrote:
>>>
>>> "Douglas Johnson" <post(a)classtech.com> wrote in message
>>> news:bm0la513ptifqd2htorhffbk4a24j9sbtg(a)4ax.com...
>>>> "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> .....Can I blame the liberals for it? After all, it is a socialist
>>>>> idea. Can
>>>>> anyone get food simply by putting their feet on a supermarkets
>>>>> property? If
>>>>> so, then would you go for the idea today that food should be
>>>>> socialized? How
>>>>> about getting a room for the night by simply setting foot on a hotel's
>>>>> property?
>>>>
>>>> So you have a heart attack. The paramedics show up. Should they
>>>> require proof
>>>> of citizenship or ability to pay before starting CPR? Or before
>>>> they transport
>>>> you to the hospital? Should the hospital require it before they
>>>> treat you?
>>>
>>> In my world, yes, yes, yes. Everyone (all 300 million of us citizens)
>>> should have a government ID card, and/or a chip implanted in us that
>>> identifies us as US citizens in good standing, and if we are sick,
>>> then the chip should get us the treatment we need. Today's technology
>>> is more than adequate to accomplish this.
>>
>> Jeez. Ever read 1984?
>>
> I don't remember whether they had illegal aliens living off the dole in
> "1984".

*whooosh!*

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From: Bob Larter on
mikey4 wrote:
> "Twibil" <nowayjose6(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2bb17f2b-8570-4fd0-9b89-5a21fbdef241(a)v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 16, 7:26 pm, "mikey4" <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote:
>>>> Never trust a man who gives online retorts with *no* substance.
>>> Well, you'd certainly be an expert on *that*, "mikey".
>> OOOOOOOO what a retort
>
> No, more of an alembic: distilled truth.
>
> LOL !!!! The only thing distilled here is what you are drinking.

Nice job of proving his point for him, Mikey.

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From: Bob Larter on
C J Campbell wrote:
> And no -- bureaucratizing health care is unlikely to get rid of waste
> and corruption. Far to the contrary. A national health care plan would
> vastly increase waste and corruption.

Really? In every other country with 'socialised' health care, they spend
much less than the USA does.


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From: Bob Larter on
Bill Graham wrote:
>
> "Bob G" <mrbobjames(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:adbcdb79-6c7f-4021-8fc0-3adf608d7083(a)w10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>> Republicans would rather get jerked around by the corporations than by
>> the government. Wait until you get a horrible diseaase and your health
>> insurance company drops you like a hot potato.
>>
>> The fact is that this nation is now an oligarchy (and has been for
>> some time) and not a democracy.
>>
>> How does that go, from the corporations, by the corporations, and for
>> the corporations?
>
> That is what litigation is supposed to correct.....You still have the
> right to sue.

What are the odds of some random guy beating a mega-rich corporation in
court? Where's he supposed to find the money to pay for the kind of
legal team you'd need to counter the legal team of a major corporation?
It's even worse if the reason he needs to litigate is that he's dying of
cancer which his insurer refuses to treat.


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