From: Ray Fischer on
Neil Harrington <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote:
>
>"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message
>news:2SeryiCsfwwKFAFF(a)phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <6c-dnXas5sKjMF_XnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Bill Graham
>> <weg9(a)comcast.net> writes
>>>
>>>"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:h9tef91qgs@n
>>>ews6.newsguy.com...
>>>> tony cooper wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:44:17 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Be sure to write the first time you encounter a CHP officer with your
>>>>>> idea that you have an inherent right to carry a concealed weapon
>>>>>> without a permit. I'd be interested to see how that plays out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have spent many happy hours arguing exactly that with California
>>>>>> Police officers......My wife's grandson-in-law happens to be one. In
>>>>>> many cases they agree with my position on the matter.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the ChrisH School of Reasoning. If you know one person who
>>>>> shares your opinion, that means "everyone" agrees with you.
>>>>
>>>> I had a police officer explain matters to me this way:
>>>>
>>>> "If you shoot me when I come to enforce a gun ban, I won't hold it
>>>> against
>>>> you."
>>>>
>>>> Many police disagree with some of the laws that they are required to
>>>> enforce, but they do their jobs anyway.
>>>>
>>>They shouldn't. "It is the responsibility, not the right, of good men
>>>to disobey bad laws." - Spencer Tracy, in "Judgment at Nuremberg."
>>
>> So how come the US military is still using torture and the excuse is
>> they were just following orders?
>
>No discussion of U.S. military "torture" can be complete without a reading
>of Ann Coulter's column on the subject, which puts it somewhat in
>perspective:

Anything that comes from a screeching neonazi lunatic that hates America and
thinks that dissent is treason is worthless trash.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: Chris H on
In message <7uo7c5l0ibdjce58lrvgo0n77co57nk54f(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper
<tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> writes
>On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:17:40 +0100, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org>
>wrote:
>
>>and I have
>>debriefed people in the middle east.
>
>
>Translation: I have shared a pint with some low-level returnees from
>the Middle East.

Those who survived gas attacks in Kurdistan in 1988, in the country some
50 miles from the incidents
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From: Chris H on
In message <ha0orl$1gq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, mikey4
<lakediver(a)dd.?.net.invalid> writes
>
>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:7uo7c5l0ibdjce58lrvgo0n77co57nk54f(a)4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:17:40 +0100, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>and I have
>>>debriefed people in the middle east.
>>
>>
>> Translation: I have shared a pint with some low-level returnees from
>> the Middle East.
>> --
>Or he ripped their underwear off :)

:-)
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From: Neil Harrington on

"Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
news:2009093010380591745-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom...
> On 2009-09-30 09:50:07 -0700, "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net>
> said:
>
>>
>> "Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message
>> news:2SeryiCsfwwKFAFF(a)phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>>> In message <6c-dnXas5sKjMF_XnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Bill Graham
>>> <weg9(a)comcast.net> writes
>>>>
>>>> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:h9tef91qgs@n
>>>> ews6.newsguy.com...
>>>>> tony cooper wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:44:17 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Be sure to write the first time you encounter a CHP officer with
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> idea that you have an inherent right to carry a concealed weapon
>>>>>>> without a permit. I'd be interested to see how that plays out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have spent many happy hours arguing exactly that with California
>>>>>>> Police officers......My wife's grandson-in-law happens to be one. In
>>>>>>> many cases they agree with my position on the matter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the ChrisH School of Reasoning. If you know one person who
>>>>>> shares your opinion, that means "everyone" agrees with you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a police officer explain matters to me this way:
>>>>>
>>>>> "If you shoot me when I come to enforce a gun ban, I won't hold it
>>>>> against
>>>>> you."
>>>>>
>>>>> Many police disagree with some of the laws that they are required to
>>>>> enforce, but they do their jobs anyway.
>>>>>
>>>> They shouldn't. "It is the responsibility, not the right, of good men
>>>> to disobey bad laws." - Spencer Tracy, in "Judgment at Nuremberg."
>>>
>>> So how come the US military is still using torture and the excuse is
>>> they were just following orders?
>>
>> No discussion of U.S. military "torture" can be complete without a
>> reading
>> of Ann Coulter's column on the subject, which puts it somewhat in
>> perspective:
>
> I was always understood, that a dinner date with Anne Coulter was an
> accurate description of torture, or cruel and unusual punishment.

I'm sure that would be true for a leftist-"liberal." They tend to have
foaming-at-the-mouth conniption fits at the mere mention of her name.
Personally I enjoy her wit amd humor very much, so I'm sure I'd enjoy dinner
with her too.


From: Neil Harrington on

"Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
news:a4Cdne8rCbVUcF7XnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>
> "Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
> news:2009093010380591745-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom...
>> I was always understood, that a dinner date with Anne Coulter was an
>> accurate description of torture, or cruel and unusual punishment.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Savageduck
>>
>
> You should be so lucky.....A dinner date with Rosy O'Donnell is more your
> speed.....

Yeecchhh. Now that is really a stomach-turning idea.