From: Chris H on
In message <hachha$aje$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, mikey4
<lakediver(a)dd.?.net.invalid> writes
>
>
>> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:26:21 +0100, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Yes I have watched Fox. Also I have seen the comments from CNN, BBC and
>>>others on Fox and their handling of stores.
>>>
>BFD, what does that prove? Every news outlet trailing in the ratings will
>bad mouth the others and those in front crow about their position.

Maybe in the US but not the rest of the world

BTW the rest of the world is bigger than the US... it is even bigger
than Texas. What is normal in the US is usually not normal in the rest
of the world.
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From: tony cooper on
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:46:46 +0100, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote:

>In message <hachha$aje$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, mikey4
><lakediver(a)dd.?.net.invalid> writes
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:26:21 +0100, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yes I have watched Fox. Also I have seen the comments from CNN, BBC and
>>>>others on Fox and their handling of stores.
>>>>
>>BFD, what does that prove? Every news outlet trailing in the ratings will
>>bad mouth the others and those in front crow about their position.
>
>Maybe in the US but not the rest of the world
>
>BTW the rest of the world is bigger than the US... it is even bigger
>than Texas. What is normal in the US is usually not normal in the rest
>of the world.

You may have seen or heard negative comments about Fox News
programming, but were they about Fox News news segments or Fox News
political commentary host's programs?

The latter are not news programming. That's why it is necessary to
understand what a political commentator's role is. Something you
clearly don't understand.

I don't suppose you have a link to one of those comments. You never
do. You just hand-wave.


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Ray Fischer on
mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote:
>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message
>> mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote:

>>>I did post the very information you are asking for.
>>
>> No you didn't.
>>
>>> Now you sad little man
>>>go fid it yourself.
>>
>> Now the petulant little child is reduced to lying about what he actually
>> posts.
>>
>You are the liar,

"I know you are but what am I?"

You can prove your statement by simply reposting your evidence or
providing the article id of your original post. You won't, of course,
because you cannot. You're just a whiny little brat who would rather
lie than admit that you're wrong.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: Neil Harrington on

"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message
news:GeSnx1DW6cyKFAzg(a)phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
> In message <hachha$aje$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, mikey4
> <lakediver(a)dd.?.net.invalid> writes
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:26:21 +0100, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yes I have watched Fox. Also I have seen the comments from CNN, BBC and
>>>>others on Fox and their handling of stores.
>>>>
>>BFD, what does that prove? Every news outlet trailing in the ratings will
>>bad mouth the others and those in front crow about their position.
>
> Maybe in the US but not the rest of the world
>
> BTW the rest of the world is bigger than the US...

But we have more lawyers.

> it is even bigger
> than Texas.

I'll bet Texas alone has more lawyers.

> What is normal in the US is usually not normal in the rest
> of the world.

Largely because we have so many lawyers.

You want some?


From: Neil Harrington on

"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message
news:oN0cVUGPMeyKFAW8(a)phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
> In message <biljc5dqinoq9ac9japjdv7m2c4c3r2vf7(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper
> <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> writes
>>On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:46:46 +0100, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <hachha$aje$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, mikey4
>>><lakediver(a)dd.?.net.invalid> writes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:26:21 +0100, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes I have watched Fox. Also I have seen the comments from CNN, BBC
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>others on Fox and their handling of stores.
>>>>>>
>>>>BFD, what does that prove? Every news outlet trailing in the ratings
>>>>will
>>>>bad mouth the others and those in front crow about their position.
>>>
>>>Maybe in the US but not the rest of the world
>>>
>>>BTW the rest of the world is bigger than the US... it is even bigger
>>>than Texas. What is normal in the US is usually not normal in the rest
>>>of the world.
>>
>>You may have seen or heard negative comments about Fox News
>>programming, but were they about Fox News news segments or Fox News
>>political commentary host's programs?
>
> Either.

They are not the same. News segments have to do with the news, and I have
not noticed any particular bias -- certainly not the sort of bias we get
regulary from the mainstream media.

Commentary shows of course give you both news and commentary about that
news. The commentators range from Hannity (definitely on the right) to
Colmes (definitely on the left). O'Reilly is center-right, but regularly has
left-leaning or hard-left people on as guests. Sometimes I think O'Reilly
bends over too far backwards to be "fair and balanced," but there you are.

>
>>The latter are not news programming. That's why it is necessary to
>>understand what a political commentator's role is. Something you
>>clearly don't understand.
>
> I do understand but having seem FOX news and many others the same
> pictures with slightly different words can portray a very different
> scene.
>
> I recall during the floods in New Orleans there was a comment that there
> were gangs of black criminals looting and white vigilantes trying to
> keep the peace and get supplies for people.
>
> In other words gang warfare but the very subtle differences in the words

Why "in other words gang warfare"? Why "white vigilantes"? Were they
actually described as such, or is that just your interpretation?

Those active in looting, robbing and attacking innocent people *were* mostly
blacks. Why do you think New Orleans would be different from any other
American city experiencing mob violence? It's always the same. You can see
it in the video footage every time. Do you really think whites in the same
numbers are doing the same things, and they only point the cameras at blacks
doing those things?

An Englishman unfortunate enough to be visiting New Orleans at that time,
and with no way of getting out, told a reporter he was "afraid of the
locals" (which locals do you suppose he was talking about?) and didn't know
if he would get out of there alive. (I don't know whether he did or not.)

> portrayed one group as criminals and the other as upholding the law when
> in fact there was on the whole no difference between the two groups.

What on earth makes you think that? Were you there?