From: Ray Fischer on
Andrew Cook <nospam(a)nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> If price fixing is prevented, and free competition is forced... ...But I
>> don't see how free competition in this industry can ever be worse than a
>> government sponsored program
>
>I'm having difficulty working out how free competion works in health
>care.

It's simeple. If you cannot afford the cost of health care then you die.

>Say I've just been shot / had a heart attack / have some other
>immediately life threatening illness. How does 'free competion in
>healthcare' help me?

It's not supposed to help you. It's supposed to help the people who
earn the profits.

> I don't have time to shop around between multiple
>providers - my options are get in the first ambulance and go to the
>nearest hospital, or die.

Well, you can die bankrupt.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: Ray Fischer on
tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:00:30 +0100, nospam(a)nospam.demon.co.uk (Andrew
>Cook) wrote:
>
>>Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> If price fixing is prevented, and free competition is forced... ...But I
>>> don't see how free competition in this industry can ever be worse than a
>>> government sponsored program
>>
>>I'm having difficulty working out how free competion works in health
>>care.
>>
>>Say I've just been shot / had a heart attack / have some other
>>immediately life threatening illness. How does 'free competion in
>>healthcare' help me? I don't have time to shop around between multiple
>>providers - my options are get in the first ambulance and go to the
>>nearest hospital, or die.
>
>>>Them when I can't afford the co-pay, I either don't have it, or con the
>>hospital I can afford it then go bankrupt later - competition doesn't
>>help me there either.
>>
>It has to do with the insurance side of health care. Should health
>care insurance providers be heavily regulated, or should they be
>allowed to compete in a free market?

A "free market" means that they charge whatever they want, cancel
coverage when they want, and the people who might cost too much
are encouraged to die.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: mikey4 on

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4aaf3045$0$1664$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net...
> tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:00:30 +0100, nospam(a)nospam.demon.co.uk (Andrew
>>Cook) wrote:
>>
>>>Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If price fixing is prevented, and free competition is forced... ...But
>>>> I
>>>> don't see how free competition in this industry can ever be worse than
>>>> a
>>>> government sponsored program
>>>
>>>I'm having difficulty working out how free competion works in health
>>>care.
>>>
>>>Say I've just been shot / had a heart attack / have some other
>>>immediately life threatening illness. How does 'free competion in
>>>healthcare' help me? I don't have time to shop around between multiple
>>>providers - my options are get in the first ambulance and go to the
>>>nearest hospital, or die.
>>
>>>>Them when I can't afford the co-pay, I either don't have it, or con the
>>>hospital I can afford it then go bankrupt later - competition doesn't
>>>help me there either.
>>>
>>It has to do with the insurance side of health care. Should health
>>care insurance providers be heavily regulated, or should they be
>>allowed to compete in a free market?
>
> A "free market" means that they charge whatever they want, cancel
> coverage when they want, and the people who might cost too much
> are encouraged to die.
>
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfischer(a)sonic.net
>
And you have the ability to purchase insurance from *any* insurance company
any where in the country.


From: Ray Fischer on
mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote:
>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message
>> tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>It has to do with the insurance side of health care. Should health
>>>care insurance providers be heavily regulated, or should they be
>>>allowed to compete in a free market?
>>
>> A "free market" means that they charge whatever they want, cancel
>> coverage when they want, and the people who might cost too much
>> are encouraged to die.
>>
>And you have the ability to purchase insurance from *any* insurance company
>any where in the country.

That's not free market. That's socialism. In a free market you may
purchase insurance only if you can afford the price being demanded and
if the insurer agrees to sell you a policy.

What you write about is socialism. Not capitalism.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: Twibil on
On Sep 14, 11:16 pm, "mikey4" <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote:
>
> >>Yes.....We, conservatives don't like to be part of a group.
>
> > LOL!  That's why all the "conservatives" dance to whatever tune the
> > O'Reillys and Limbaughs are playing.
>
> And all liberals dance to their tune as well.

Excuse me?

You seem to having a bad acid trip there, so just lie back and relax
for a while, listen to the music, and have a few beers.

Everything will look better in the morning.