From: Twibil on
On Sep 15, 9:47 pm, tony cooper <tony_cooper...(a)> wrote
> What kind of job did you have at Stanford that allowed you to stay on
> the payroll while being the type of person who believes things that
> are completely untrue and has no curiosity to actually determine the
> truth?

Even Stanford needs janitors, lab rats, groundskeepers, and parking
From: Twibil on
On Sep 15, 10:41 pm, rfisc...(a) (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >When you consider how many handguns are in the hands of American citizens,
> >our firearm death rate is extremely small.....
> A tacit admission that fewer guns would mean fewer deaths.

Nope. Only fewer deaths by gun, if that. And with a corresponding rise
in other causes.

Never trust a man who's certain that he has simple solutions to
complex problems.
From: Twibil on
On Sep 15, 11:46 pm, Rol_Lei Nut <Speleo_Karstlens...(a)>
> P.S: For some reason, life expectancy in the US is lowest in the Bible
> Belt, up to 6 years shorter than the better states.

Has nothing to do with Bibles per-se: has a *lot* to do with diet,
poverty, lack of education, and lack of available health services.
From: David Ruether on

"Twibil" <nowayjose6(a)> wrote in message news:3aab8f79-88b8-426d-9a9b-57a21d65ecaa(a)
On Sep 15, 9:24 pm, "Neil Harrington" <sec...(a)> wrote:

Fact is that the cost of medical care has risen all out of proportion
to the income of the average wage earner, and medical problems that
could easily be paid for in the '40s and '50s are now costly enough to
put the guy on the street into a bankruptsy court if he has no medical

If the fact that medical care in the US today costs slightly over
*twice* what it does anywhere else in the world doesn't make you
suspect that something has gone rotten in the medical industry, you're
simply not paying attention.

--It *should*, but..............................! ;-)
--Can't have no "socialism" no-how, no-way - 'cuz it's, well, just
--plain "un-American"! 8^)
--BTW, in the very early '60s, I spent a night in the hospital, billed
--$25. About seven years ago, I spent a night in a hospital, billed
--$2200. Both were for plain double rooms, not ICU...

From: David Ruether on

"Bill Graham" <weg9(a)> wrote in message news:BdadncP-vJxLly3XnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d(a)

> Good points, and I agree with most of them. But my problem is the government insists on taking my tax money and giving it away to
> "the poor", or anyone else who makes less than I do, and I don't know how to stop this. It isn't their money. It's mine. But they
> have the power to steal it from me under this socialized system, and I don't know how to stop that. During election time, they
> advertise that if you vote for them, they will steal money from the rich and give it to the poor, and, since there are more who
> think of themselves as poor than rich, these people vote for them, and then they deliver what they promised.

I think you don't understand the predominant beliefs of the US electorate
very well... I think few see the election of Democrats as specifically to
"steal rich people's money so more can be given to (poor) me", as the
unbelievably odd (to some of us) "bill of goods" the Republicans have sold
to so many for so long that "supporting the interests of the rich is best for us
(the poor) because, well, someday we may also be rich - which is a fantasy,
but one that is widely held by Americans, especially now with widespread
popular lotteries in existence. BTW, this nonsense predates the "anything
socialistic is bad" myth sold also by those on the Right, who fail to mention
that much of what is taken for granted as basic services *is* socialistic...
Armed with these two myths, a disreputable bunch of rascals is often able
to draw roughly 50% of the electorate's votes. Pushing these myths, with
repeated lies and deceptions added, works for winning elections, alas...