From: Bob Larter on
Bill Graham wrote:
>
> "Bob G" <mrbobjames(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:adbcdb79-6c7f-4021-8fc0-3adf608d7083(a)w10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>> Republicans would rather get jerked around by the corporations than by
>> the government. Wait until you get a horrible diseaase and your health
>> insurance company drops you like a hot potato.
>>
>> The fact is that this nation is now an oligarchy (and has been for
>> some time) and not a democracy.
>>
>> How does that go, from the corporations, by the corporations, and for
>> the corporations?
>
> That is what litigation is supposed to correct.....You still have the
> right to sue.

What are the odds of some random guy beating a mega-rich corporation in
court? Where's he supposed to find the money to pay for the kind of
legal team you'd need to counter the legal team of a major corporation?
It's even worse if the reason he needs to litigate is that he's dying of
cancer which his insurer refuses to treat.


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From: Bob Larter on
Bill Graham wrote:
>
> "wrbrown13" <wrbrown3(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:xz99h2s243hc$.9skloajqavx8.dlg(a)40tude.net...
>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:36:20 -0700, Bill Graham wrote:
>>
>>> "Bob G" <mrbobjames(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:adbcdb79-6c7f-4021-8fc0-3adf608d7083(a)w10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> Republicans would rather get jerked around by the corporations than by
>>>> the government. Wait until you get a horrible diseaase and your health
>>>> insurance company drops you like a hot potato.
>>>>
>>>> The fact is that this nation is now an oligarchy (and has been for
>>>> some time) and not a democracy.
>>>>
>>>> How does that go, from the corporations, by the corporations, and for
>>>> the corporations?
>>>
>>> That is what litigation is supposed to correct.....You still have the
>>> right
>>> to sue. But I never said that government couldn't regulate. Your health
>>> insurance policy should list the stuff it doesn't cover, in large ten
>>> point
>>> type.......I would vote for a law like that.
>>
>>
>> Now there's a thought. Sue a large corporation who has any number of
>> lawyers on their staff and can drag litigation out intil you don't have a
>> penny to your name. Great in theory, but a joke in reality.
>
> They usually settle out of court. Why? Because juries are very
> sympathetic to the little guy, and have been known to award many
> millions of the big companies money to him.

After years of litigation, during which the plaintiff may have died of
their illness.

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From: Ray Fischer on
Bob Larter <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>stephe_k(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>> Bill Graham wrote:
>>
>>> We have been over this ground too many times already. Let's just look
>>> at the present and near future.
>>
>> Well you might need to look at what Obama was handed by GWB before you
>> try to blame him for where we are.
>>
>>> How can any good come out of spending several trillion dollars right now?
>>
>> Have you looked around the world? We are NOT the only Gov pumping money
>> into their economy trying to avoid a Depression.
>
>Yep. In Australia, the government pumped a ton of cash into stimulus
>payments for just about everybody, & told us to go spend it. We did, &
>it kept us out of a recession by the skin of our teeth. In fact, we're
>the only G20 nation that has avoided recession. The only thing Obama has
>done wrong is not give /enough/ money to people who'd go straight out &
>spend it.

What the rightards and politicians don't seem to grasp is that giving
tons of money to rich people doesn't do squat for the economy, and
most likely makes things even worse because they often ship their
money out of the country. Give stimulus money to the poor and middle
classes and the money will get spent and will get spent in the
country.

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Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: DRS on
"Bob Larter" <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4ab3335a$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au
> Bill Graham wrote:

[...]

>> Then your congressmen are a lot more honest than are ours.
>
> We don't allow lobbyists here to make massive 'campaign contributions'
> to our politicians.

Hmm, define massive. Remember, Howard (=Republican) significantly increased
the mandatory contribution disclosure thresholds for political parties.
Keating (=Democrat) had set it at $1,500, today it is $10,500.



From: DRS on
"Bob Larter" <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4ab335e5$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au
> stephe_k(a)yahoo.com wrote:

[...]

>> Have you looked around the world? We are NOT the only Gov pumping
>> money into their economy trying to avoid a Depression.
>
> Yep. In Australia, the government pumped a ton of cash into stimulus
> payments for just about everybody, & told us to go spend it. We did, &
> it kept us out of a recession by the skin of our teeth. In fact, we're
> the only G20 nation that has avoided recession. The only thing Obama
> has done wrong is not give /enough/ money to people who'd go straight
> out & spend it.

I have to disagree with that last statement. Obama's administration majorly
fucked up the bailout of Wall St. As a consequence the pirates know they
can be as greedy and reckless as they like and they'll get the taxpayer
saving their arses.