From: mikey4 on

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message
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> mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote:
>>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message
>>> DRS <drs(a)removethis.ihug.com.au> wrote:
>>>>"Bob Larter" <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> stephe_k(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Have you looked around the world? We are NOT the only Gov pumping
>>>>>> money into their economy trying to avoid a Depression.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. In Australia, the government pumped a ton of cash into stimulus
>>>>> payments for just about everybody, & told us to go spend it. We did, &
>>>>> it kept us out of a recession by the skin of our teeth. In fact, we're
>>>>> the only G20 nation that has avoided recession. The only thing Obama
>>>>> has done wrong is not give /enough/ money to people who'd go straight
>>>>> out & spend it.
>>>>
>>>>I have to disagree with that last statement. Obama's administration
>>>>majorly
>>>>fucked up the bailout of Wall St.
>>>
>>> Except that it was the Bush administration.
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/business/21qanda.html
>>>
>>*And both houses*.
>
> No, actually it was the Bush administration that gave out the money
> that Congress authorized.
>
> You sure don't know much, do you? But then, somebody who would rather
> see the US economy collapse cannot be too smart.
>

I rest my case, you really are dumber than you look. Thank you for proving
it yet again.







From: mikey4 on

"SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message
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> mikey4 wrote:
>
>> Just what do you think is happening right now????????? Why do you think
>> people are so PISSED????????
>
> You have a very small number of people that are "PISSED" and they are
> pissed because their handlers tell them to be pissed, not because they
> have even the slightest understanding of what's going on. They aren't out
> there reading The Economist to gain an in-depth understanding of the
> complex issues, they're listening to lies from Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity,
> Rush, and the Heritage Foundation. They have no capacity or desire to even
> try to learn. Such is the state of the right-wing.
>
> The rest of the population may not be too happy about the bailouts but
> they have developed the critical thinking skills to understand why the
> government could not let companies like AIG fail, why the major banks
> could not be allowed to fail, and why manufacturers with billions of
> dollars of pension liabilities were better bailed out than allowed to
> fail. Yes, it's not fair. The alternative would have been far worse.
>
> No one blames Obama for this mess. They may put too much of the blame on
> George W. Bush since the political philosophy that led us down this road
> was began by Ronald Reagan, who has near god-like status among the right
> wing, and cannot be blamed for anything.

People are pissed because "they" have finely woke up to the fact that the
"government" is out of control and has been for a very long time. Problem
is we have no idea what would have happened if any of these those companies
would have been allowed to fail, only best guesses. AIG spun off their auto
insurance company which Farmers has picked up. Yes *I know* that's only one
example, my point is that with the mad rush we will never know how many
other example there could have been.


From: Allen on
C J Campbell wrote:
> On 2009-09-18 00:46:40 -0700, Bob Larter <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> said:
>
>> C J Campbell wrote:
>>> And no -- bureaucratizing health care is unlikely to get rid of waste
>>> and corruption. Far to the contrary. A national health care plan
>>> would vastly increase waste and corruption.
>>
>> Really? In every other country with 'socialised' health care, they
>> spend much less than the USA does.
>
> They also ration their health care. If we included all the patients from
> countries with socialized health care who come to the US for care as
> part of the cost of their care, and subtracted it from what we spend, I
> think the numbers would be dramatically reversed.
Interesting! I didn't realize that Hotmail service was available in
Cloudcuckooland. Oh, and goodbye, Campbell; I don't know how you have
stayed out of my killfile so long. But situation rectified as of right now.
Allen
From: C J Campbell on
On 2009-09-18 10:18:35 -0700, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) said:

> C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2009-09-18 00:46:40 -0700, Bob Larter <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> said:
>>
>>> C J Campbell wrote:
>>>> And no -- bureaucratizing health care is unlikely to get rid of waste
>>>> and corruption. Far to the contrary. A national health care plan would
>>>> vastly increase waste and corruption.
>>>
>>> Really? In every other country with 'socialised' health care, they
>>> spend much less than the USA does.
>>
>> They also ration their health care.
>
> As does the United States.
>
>> If we included all the patients
>> from countries with socialized health care who come to the US for care
>
> Rightard propaganda.

Leftard mindlessness.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

From: C J Campbell on
On 2009-09-18 13:28:23 -0700, Allen <allent(a)austin.rr.com> said:

> C J Campbell wrote:
>> On 2009-09-18 00:46:40 -0700, Bob Larter <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> said:
>>
>>> C J Campbell wrote:
>>>> And no -- bureaucratizing health care is unlikely to get rid of waste
>>>> and corruption. Far to the contrary. A national health care plan would
>>>> vastly increase waste and corruption.
>>>
>>> Really? In every other country with 'socialised' health care, they
>>> spend much less than the USA does.
>>
>> They also ration their health care. If we included all the patients
>> from countries with socialized health care who come to the US for care
>> as part of the cost of their care, and subtracted it from what we
>> spend, I think the numbers would be dramatically reversed.
> Interesting! I didn't realize that Hotmail service was available in
> Cloudcuckooland. Oh, and goodbye, Campbell; I don't know how you have
> stayed out of my killfile so long. But situation rectified as of right
> now.
> Allen

Nutcase. Apparently he can't stand to have people disagree with him. So
he just runs around yelling "Not listening! Not listening!"

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor