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"SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message
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> mikey4 wrote:
>
>> Just what do you think is happening right now????????? Why do you think
>> people are so PISSED????????
>
> You have a very small number of people that are "PISSED" and they are
> pissed because their handlers tell them to be pissed, not because they
> have even the slightest understanding of what's going on. They aren't out
> there reading The Economist to gain an in-depth understanding of the
> complex issues, they're listening to lies from Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity,
> Rush, and the Heritage Foundation. They have no capacity or desire to even
> try to learn. Such is the state of the right-wing.
>
> The rest of the population may not be too happy about the bailouts but
> they have developed the critical thinking skills to understand why the
> government could not let companies like AIG fail, why the major banks
> could not be allowed to fail, and why manufacturers with billions of
> dollars of pension liabilities were better bailed out than allowed to
> fail. Yes, it's not fair. The alternative would have been far worse.
>
> No one blames Obama for this mess. They may put too much of the blame on
> George W. Bush since the political philosophy that led us down this road
> was began by Ronald Reagan, who has near god-like status among the right
> wing, and cannot be blamed for anything.

You mean the philosophy of encouraging the banks to lend money for mortgages
to people who didn't have any money for a down payment, and poor work
records to make the payments? I don't think so. I think that was advanced by
democrats on the finance committee like Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd.
Blaming Ronald Regan and supply side economics for that is
ridiculous........

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"David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message
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>> "SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message
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>>> Neil Harrington wrote:
>
>>>> This morning's (Wednesday) Investor's Business Daily has a front-page
>>>> headline saying:
>>>> "45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting
>>>> If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul.
>
>>> IBD has as much credibility at Fox News, the New York Post, and the
>>> Washington Times.
>
>> Yes, those news organizations have all reported on the Van Jones scandal,
>> which the mainstream media took great pains to avoid any mention of --
>> with the result that when Jones resigned, people who didn't follow Fox
>> News, the New York Post, the Washington Times et al. didn't even know
>> what he was resigning for. That's the state of the news media today.
>
> You have GOT to be joking!!! Obviously you have been watching only
> Fox news and similar, which is why you missed the more balanced reporting
> on this elsewhere...
>
>> Much the same with the latest ACORN scandal, which stunk so badly that
>> even Democrats in Congress finally voted to stop funding ACORN. But you
>> never even heard about it from ABC, CBS or NBC, did you?
> [Nonsense deleted...]
>
> What was shown on tape from a *few* ACORN locations (but where
> were the reportings of the ones that threw out these imposters?) was
> disgusting and stupid, but here we have once again the old absolutist
> and uncritical Right approach of the non-thinking "they all must be evil",
> and, "let's throw out the baby with the bathwater".
>
>> Here, read all about it from a functional news organization and learn
>> something for a change:
>>
>> http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/14/dan-gainor-acorn-media-ignore/
>
> So THIS is where you get your (false) information from, huh??? LOL,
> and much more LOL! 8^)
> Q. E. D., by yourself! 8^)
> --DR
>
>
Well, after Fox news' report and expose of ACORN. the congress voted to cut
off their funding today......

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<stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:h916ml$lne$3(a)news.albasani.net...
> mikey4 wrote:
>
>>
>> People are pissed because "they" have finely woke up to the fact that the
>> "government" is out of control and has been for a very long time.
>
> Well I was pissed watching GWB spending BILLIONS on a war while giving
> MASSIVE tax breaks to the wealthy. I was pissed watching him do NOTHING
> other than watching the economy fail. Were you? Some of us didn't just
> "wake up" because a republican wasn't in the white house. If Obama had
> been handed a healthy country and done this, I'd be pissed right there
> with ya, but that isn't what happened.
>
> Stephanie
I still don't understand about these, "massive tax cuts to the wealthy". the
last time I checked, the more money you make, the greater percentage you
have to pay, .....that's what the tax tables in the form 1040 tell me.....

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"Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message
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> "Bob Larter" <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Bill Graham wrote:
>>>
>>> "Bob Larter" <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4ab10bc3$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>>> Bill Graham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Douglas Johnson" <post(a)classtech.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>> "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .....Can I blame the liberals for it? After all, it is a socialist
>>>>>>> idea. Can
>>>>>>> anyone get food simply by putting their feet on a supermarkets
>>>>>>> property? If
>>>>>>> so, then would you go for the idea today that food should be
>>>>>>> socialized? How
>>>>>>> about getting a room for the night by simply setting foot on a
>>>>>>> hotel's
>>>>>>> property?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you have a heart attack. The paramedics show up. Should they
>>>>>> require proof
>>>>>> of citizenship or ability to pay before starting CPR? Or before they
>>>>>> transport
>>>>>> you to the hospital? Should the hospital require it before they
>>>>>> treat you?
>>>>>
>>>>> In my world, yes, yes, yes. Everyone (all 300 million of us citizens)
>>>>> should have a government ID card, and/or a chip implanted in us that
>>>>> identifies us as US citizens in good standing, and if we are sick,
>>>>> then the chip should get us the treatment we need. Today's technology
>>>>> is more than adequate to accomplish this.
>>>>
>>>> Jeez. Ever read 1984?
>>>>
>>> I don't remember whether they had illegal aliens living off the dole in
>>> "1984".
>>
>> *whooosh!*
>
> Where's the "whooosh!," Bob?
>
> Most of us, adults at least, already carry ID routinely. I can't legally
> drive my car without it, can you? I can't legally carry a pistol without
> it, either. Of course if you live in Australia or someplace like that you
> can't do the latter anyway, but there you are: having to carry ID doesn't
> take away a right that I have and you don't whether you carry ID or not.
>
>
Nonsense! - this is an unenforceable law....Nobody knows what I have in my
pocket, and they aren't likely to ever know. I have been carrying a gun all
of my adult life, and I have always refused to get a permit for it. Why?
Because such permits are unconstitutional, and therefore illegal. I even
took one to Europe with me back in the late 1980's. And carried it all over
there, too. Sure, I could have been busted, but it is better to be alive and
on trial for murder than it is to be dead, while someone else is on trial
for your murder. Or, as someone said once, "Better the man catches you with
it, than the boy catches you without it."

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"Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message
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> "David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message
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>
>>
>>> Much the same with the latest ACORN scandal, which stunk so badly that
>>> even Democrats in Congress finally voted to stop funding ACORN. But you
>>> never even heard about it from ABC, CBS or NBC, did you?
>> [Nonsense deleted...]
>>
>> What was shown on tape from a *few* ACORN locations (but where
>> were the reportings of the ones that threw out these imposters?)
>
> What makes you think ANY of the ACORN offices did or would do any
> differently from the ones on tape? ACORN is rotten and corrupt to the
> core. Do you know how many states they're facing criminals charges in for
> voter registration fraud? What a perfect organization they are for Obama,
> the Chicago machine politician. There's a match made in heaven for you
> (well, probably not heaven but it's still a perfect match).
>
>> was
>> disgusting and stupid, but here we have once again the old absolutist
>> and uncritical Right approach of the non-thinking "they all must be
>> evil",
>> and, "let's throw out the baby with the bathwater".
>>
>>> Here, read all about it from a functional news organization and learn
>>> something for a change:
>>>
>>> http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/14/dan-gainor-acorn-media-ignore/
>>
>> So THIS is where you get your (false) information from, huh??? LOL,
>
> Show something in it that you can demonstrate is false. Go ahead, I'll
> wait. Take your time.
>
Yes. They love to put down Fox news, but I see the congress has voted to
discontinue ACORN's funding by 85% as a direct result of Fox's efforts....