From: Ray Fischer on
mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote:
>
>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message
>news:4ab5b318$0$1646$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net...
>> mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote:
>>>
>>>"John A." <john(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
>>>news:d1tab5hf131605ho26snc94pnn779hibf2(a)4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:28:54 -0500, "mikey4" <lakediver(a)dd..net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:4ab55678$0$1607$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net...
>>>>>> mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:4ab51946$0$1630$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net...
>>>>>>>> mikey4 <lakediver(a)dd..net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> Neil Harrington <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>"David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Much the same with the latest ACORN scandal, which stunk so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> badly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> even Democrats in Congress finally voted to stop funding ACORN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> never even heard about it from ABC, CBS or NBC, did you?
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Nonsense deleted...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What was shown on tape from a *few* ACORN locations (but where
>>>>>>>>>>>> were the reportings of the ones that threw out these imposters?)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>What makes you think ANY of the ACORN offices did or would do any
>>>>>>>>>>>differently from the ones on tape? ACORN is rotten and corrupt to
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>core.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If that's true then it must also be true of the Republican party
>>>>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>>>>> the number of Republicans who have been shown to be lying,
>>>>>>>>>> philandering hypocrites.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Just like the lefttards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Never trust a man who gives online retorts with *no* substance.
>>>>>>>> mikey in <h8rvun$1hb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>Snip away ray
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Run away, hypocrite.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's always so easy to argue against you rightards jut by throwing
>>>>>> your own words back at you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>ok got it, which post are you referring to? or can't you post the
>>>>>entire
>>>>>text here.
>>>>
>>>> The message ID is h8rvun$1hb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org
>>>>
>>>> If your news reader can't get you to the article using that, try this:
>>>>
>>>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/browse_thread/thread/16c602542978b515/51ec3250dbeab29b?hl=en&q=#51ec3250dbeab29b
>>>
>>>Thank you John for posting the link, the only part that post that is me is
>>>the header.
>>
>> mikey tries to deny his own words.
>>
>> Nothing but a rightard coward.
>>
>Sorry to disappoint you once again ray. What is under that header are

mikey tries to deny his own words. Typical rightard cowardice.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: Ray Fischer on
Neil Harrington <not(a)home.today> wrote:
>
>"Rol_Lei Nut" <Speleo_Karstlenscap(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:7hm14hF2uahsiU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> Interestingly, in all these polical threads, I don't recall a single post
>> from someone living in a country with state-regulated health
>> insurance/care complaining about it.
>> Many, including myself, posted that it works quite well and costs a
>> fraction of the U.S. system.
>
>Canadian doctors say their health care system is "imploding" -

Rightard dishonesty. In fact a FEW doctors are concerned because
expenses and income are mismatched.

>-- the
>president of the Canadian Medical Association says the country's health care
>system is sick and needs to be cured.
>http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1137768.html

And doctors in the US say that the US health care system isn't just
sick, it is BROKEN.

>That doesn't sound as if "it works quite well."

A damn sight better than what's in the US.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: SMS on
Ray Fischer wrote:
> Miles Bader <miles(a)gnu.org> wrote:
>> rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) writes:
>>> The very welathy can actually pay a LOWER tax rate because their
>>> income is not always in the form of salaries.
>> Ah.. that must be why the repubs are forever trying to get rid of
>> capital gains taxes...
>
> And inheritence taxes. The very taxes that most affect the idle rich.

No Ray, you're supposed to call it a "Death Tax" like the rightards.
From: Bill Graham on

"John A." <john(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:50:19 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"John A." <john(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:h3uab5tmvimvhids35obejrovgjosp0gfl(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:22:30 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John A." <john(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>news:2it9b5haf2k7muslnua4oj9a2kbkkrvjh6(a)4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:05:44 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><stephe_k(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:h916ml$lne$3(a)news.albasani.net...
>>>>>>> mikey4 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> People are pissed because "they" have finely woke up to the fact
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> "government" is out of control and has been for a very long time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well I was pissed watching GWB spending BILLIONS on a war while
>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>> MASSIVE tax breaks to the wealthy. I was pissed watching him do
>>>>>>> NOTHING
>>>>>>> other than watching the economy fail. Were you? Some of us didn't
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> "wake up" because a republican wasn't in the white house. If Obama
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> been handed a healthy country and done this, I'd be pissed right
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> with ya, but that isn't what happened.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephanie
>>>>>>I still don't understand about these, "massive tax cuts to the
>>>>>>wealthy".
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>last time I checked, the more money you make, the greater percentage
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>have to pay, .....that's what the tax tables in the form 1040 tell
>>>>>>me.....
>>>>>
>>>>> The rates were reduced. What's to understand?
>>>>
>>>>THE MORE YOU MAKE THE GREATER PERCENTAGE OF YOUR INCOME THAT YOU HAVE TO
>>>>PAY. That's regressive taxation in anyone's book. When the government
>>>>protects a high income person, does their Army work harder for them? -
>>>>No.
>>>>but still, they not only pay more in taxes....They pay a GREATER
>>>>PERCENTAGE
>>>>OF THEIR INCOME. What's so hard about that to understand?
>>>
>>> You said you didn't understand the tax cuts. The fact that we have a
>>> graduated rate system has no bearing on whether there were cuts in the
>>> rates in that system.
>>
>>There may be cuts in the rates, but the system still taxes the rich at a
>>greater percentage of their income than those who are poorer than they
>>are,
>>so it is still regressive. Don't you understand that this depresses the
>>incentive to invest money in business and try to become rich? And these
>>small businesses are where most of the employment in this country comes
>>from? Right now, we are looking at unemployment rates that are upwards of
>>10%. - (They are already over 12% here in Oregon.) It is going to take a
>>long time for this to correct itself, mainly because of the regressive tax
>>system that "sticks it to the rich".
>
> Trust me, the actual taxes paid by high-income folk are not reflected
> accurately in the nominal tax rates.

......Because there are some who can figure out some way to wriggle out of
them, probably by registering their businesses overseas. And, by raising the
rates, how is this going to help? - It isn't. All it will do is hurt the
ones who are honest and trying to live within the system....The crooks who
are registering their businesses overseas are still going to do so, so they
will still circumvent the system, IOW, you are just going to hurt the honest
people, and not going to impact the dishonest ones at all......The real
answer is to back off, and give the honest ones a break. You should be
putting pressure on the foreign governments to stop the other ones.....

From: Bill Graham on

"Rol_Lei Nut" <Speleo_Karstlenscap(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7hm14hF2uahsiU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> Interestingly, in all these polical threads, I don't recall a single post
> from someone living in a country with state-regulated health
> insurance/care complaining about it.
> Many, including myself, posted that it works quite well and costs a
> fraction of the U.S. system.
> But no real user posted anything against.

That's because they are all dead......The only ones still alive are those
who never had to use their system......:^)