From: Savageduck on
On 2009-09-10 13:52:25 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> said:

>
> "bugbear" <bugbear(a)trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message
> news:Rpudnctvvv-pmTTXnZ2dnUVZ8i1i4p2d(a)brightview.co.uk...
>> Rol_Lei Nut wrote:
>>> Bob G wrote:
>>>>> What he said was a lie, the health care will be provided to all tax
>>>>> payers and illegals are covered under the tax law so will receive free
>>>>> health care. Unless it was added all of the bills that have passed did
>>>>> not exclude illegals.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't know. Have we so lost our humanity that we think illegals are
>>>> animals? It's pathetic to hear a President promise to deny health care
>>>> to some people in order to appease Republicans.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> At this point I wouldn't be at all surprised if Republicans start
>>> demanding sterilization and euthanasia for the mentally handicapped....
>
> How about just euthanasia for the liberals? - I'd go for that!

Now you are sounding suspiciously like you are a member of that
teutonic group you deny affiliation with.
Some of those guys dropped through a trapdoor with a safety rope around
their neck, after a discussion at your favorite German town, Nuremberg,
regarding their implementation of that sort of idea.
--
Regards,

Savageduck

From: Rol_Lei Nut on
Bill Graham wrote:
>
> "Rol_Lei Nut" <Speleo_Karstlenscap(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>
>> At this point I wouldn't be at all surprised if Republicans start
>> demanding sterilization and euthanasia for the mentally handicapped....
>
> I thought sterilization before giving child support money to unwed
> mothers was a great idea. If it's my money, shouldn't I have the right
> to put restrictions on it before the Libs give it away to others? After
> all, they still have the choice. They can refuse to get sterilized, and
> support themselves! (Now, isn't that a unique idea?)

Yes, Bill, tell us all about your experience as a working single Mom
raising a young child...
I'm sure you could write a paper (with "statistics") showing that a
single parent can work, raise a child and *still* have enough time for
up to 4 hours sleep every day.

You ideas go beyond political thought and ideology: I'm sorry, they are
simply the rants of a bitter, spoiled, stingy, ill-informed and
oh-so-self-righteous narrow-minded old man who would rather have a
couple of more dollars in his pocket than provide a safety net for any
sort of misfortune which may happen to other people (for whatever reason).
From: Bill Graham on

"Rol_Lei Nut" <Speleo_Karstlenscap(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7gudlkF2rba42U1(a)mid.individual.net...
> Bill Graham wrote:
>>
>> "Rol_Lei Nut" <Speleo_Karstlenscap(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>
>>> At this point I wouldn't be at all surprised if Republicans start
>>> demanding sterilization and euthanasia for the mentally handicapped....
>>
>> I thought sterilization before giving child support money to unwed
>> mothers was a great idea. If it's my money, shouldn't I have the right to
>> put restrictions on it before the Libs give it away to others? After all,
>> they still have the choice. They can refuse to get sterilized, and
>> support themselves! (Now, isn't that a unique idea?)
>
> Yes, Bill, tell us all about your experience as a working single Mom
> raising a young child...
> I'm sure you could write a paper (with "statistics") showing that a single
> parent can work, raise a child and *still* have enough time for up to 4
> hours sleep every day.
>
> You ideas go beyond political thought and ideology: I'm sorry, they are
> simply the rants of a bitter, spoiled, stingy, ill-informed and
> oh-so-self-righteous narrow-minded old man who would rather have a couple
> of more dollars in his pocket than provide a safety net for any sort of
> misfortune which may happen to other people (for whatever reason).

"For whatever reason?" Not so. I believe in charity for those who deserve
it. And by that, I mean for those whose misfortune has been no fault of
their own. I just don't believe in stealing the taxpayer's money and giving
it to those who had every chance that I had to become self supporting, but
chose to become bums.....I have known a number of such people, and I don't
like Obama using my tax dollars to pay them today when they wasted their
time and money back then. I rode a bicycle to work for ten years, (for
example) - So where is my $4500 now.....I could use a new car too. And you
guys say that isn't socialism......What horse puckey! I know socialism when
I see it. "Spread the wealth around". From those who earned it to those who
did not.

From: DRS on
"Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5NidnfuTjrorNzfXnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d(a)giganews.com

[...]

> that isn't socialism......What horse puckey! I know socialism when I
> see it.

No, you don't. The moment you see democratically elected governments doing
anything other than letting the pirates put profits ahead of people and you
simply scream "socialism!" but you have no clue what you're talking about.
You have no idea what socialism is and you've proved in here over and over
that you have no intention whatsoever of finding out.



From: Neil Harrington on

"Rol_Lei Nut" <Speleo_Karstlenscap(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7gudlkF2rba42U1(a)mid.individual.net...
> Bill Graham wrote:
>>
>> "Rol_Lei Nut" <Speleo_Karstlenscap(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>
>>> At this point I wouldn't be at all surprised if Republicans start
>>> demanding sterilization and euthanasia for the mentally handicapped....
>>
>> I thought sterilization before giving child support money to unwed
>> mothers was a great idea. If it's my money, shouldn't I have the right to
>> put restrictions on it before the Libs give it away to others? After all,
>> they still have the choice. They can refuse to get sterilized, and
>> support themselves! (Now, isn't that a unique idea?)
>
> Yes, Bill, tell us all about your experience as a working single Mom
> raising a young child...

How did the single mom get to be a single mom in the first place?

> I'm sure you could write a paper (with "statistics") showing that a single
> parent can work, raise a child and *still* have enough time for up to 4
> hours sleep every day.
>
> You ideas go beyond political thought and ideology: I'm sorry, they are
> simply the rants of a bitter, spoiled, stingy, ill-informed and
> oh-so-self-righteous narrow-minded old man who would rather have a couple
> of more dollars in his pocket than provide a safety net for any sort of
> misfortune which may happen to other people (for whatever reason).

You sound like a bitter, spoiled, ill-informed and oh-so-self-righteous
narrow-minded fellow yourself, though admittedly not a stingy one -- at
least with other people's money.

If you really want to make sure those who won't work or support themselves
are nevertheless well supported, well fed, housed and taken care of in every
way, why not share YOUR money with them? Remember the old saying, "charity
begins at home." Be charitable. It isn't a proper function of the
government.