From: Ray Fischer on
Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>Of course. You don't expect us conservatives to hide behind the door when

Anybody who isists that invading other countries, killing people by
the hundreds of thousands, and implanting ID chips in to all Americans
is a good idea is no conservative. Fascist? Probably.

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Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: Ray Fischer on
Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>I just want to return to the days when people tried to take care of
>themselves, and didn't depend on the government to do it for them.....

Says the person who depends upon Medicare and Social Security.

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Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: David on

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4ab1ae11$0$1619$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net...
> Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>I just want to return to the days when people tried to
>>take care of
>>themselves, and didn't depend on the government to do it
>>for them.....
>
> Says the person who depends upon Medicare and Social
> Security.
>
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfischer(a)sonic.net

Social Security and Medicare are government run insurance
policies. Ever hear of FICA which is the ~15% of your salary
the government collects? It is half hidden for employees
because the employer pays part directly instead of putting
it into your paycheck where you can actually see it being
removed. FICA = Federal Insurance Compensation Act.
Unfortunately it was set up as a Ponzi scheme that is
falling apart. I could get some nice health insurance and an
annuity if I had the ability to keep the FICA money. You
even pay income tax on the part you do see on your pay stub.

David
..

From: Ray Fischer on
David <someone(a)somewhere.com> wrote:
>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message
>> Bill Graham <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote:

>>>I just want to return to the days when people tried to
>>>take care of
>>>themselves, and didn't depend on the government to do it
>>>for them.....
>>
>> Says the person who depends upon Medicare and Social
>> Security.
>
>Social Security and Medicare are government run insurance
>policies.

And? He's still a whining rightard hypocrite.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: Bill Graham on

"Father Guido Sarducci" <don(a)novello.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9C8A70F3BA778FatherGuido(a)202.177.16.121...
>> Social Security and Medicare are government run insurance
>> policies. Ever hear of FICA which is the ~15% of your salary
>> the government collects? It is half hidden for employees
>> because the employer pays part directly instead of putting
>> it into your paycheck where you can actually see it being
>> removed. FICA = Federal Insurance Compensation Act.
>> Unfortunately it was set up as a Ponzi scheme that is
>> falling apart. I could get some nice health insurance and an
>> annuity if I had the ability to keep the FICA money. You
>> even pay income tax on the part you do see on your pay stub.

Yes, and they have the nerve to give Madoff 150 years for doing what they
have been doing since 1930.....And Bush wanted to actually invest the money
in American business, and the Dems screamed bloody murder!