From: infiniteMPG on
> If so, you wasted your money - again.  Maybe in future you should use your limited budget to buy fewer items, but better quality?

Could you recommend a "good" lens in the 500mm-800mm range and a
"good" magnifier that a normal "working Joe" can afford that won't
cost ten times what my camera cost or require me to trade my car in
for?

From: Better Info on
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:58:08 -0700 (PDT), infiniteMPG <57classic(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>> If so, you wasted your money - again. �Maybe in future you should use your limited budget to buy fewer items, but better quality?
>
>Could you recommend a "good" lens in the 500mm-800mm range and a
>"good" magnifier that a normal "working Joe" can afford that won't
>cost ten times what my camera cost or require me to trade my car in
>for?

Any of the superzoom P&S cameras with a high-quality telextender will
suffice. Plus you get a whole new camera for free behind it. Not to mention
the much larger (and adjustable) apertures available, without the
distracting ring-shaped bokeh of a catadioptric mirror lens design.

I suggest one of the Canon Powershot super-zooms and Sony's 1.7x
telextender. Sony's optics mate-up better with that lens design than
Canon's own 1.7x telextender. If going this route, get the larger of the
larger of the two styles of 1.7x telextender offered by Sony so you don't
lose any aperture at all at the widest f/stops.

From: Better Info on
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:58:08 -0700 (PDT), infiniteMPG <57classic(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>> If so, you wasted your money - again. �Maybe in future you should use your limited budget to buy fewer items, but better quality?
>
>Could you recommend a "good" lens in the 500mm-800mm range and a
>"good" magnifier that a normal "working Joe" can afford that won't
>cost ten times what my camera cost or require me to trade my car in
>for?

Any of the superzoom P&S cameras with a high-quality telextender will
suffice. Plus you get a whole new camera for free behind it. Not to mention
the much larger (and adjustable) apertures available, without the
distracting ring-shaped bokeh of a catadioptric mirror lens design.

I suggest one of the Canon Powershot super-zooms and Sony's 1.7x
telextender. Sony's optics mate-up better with that lens design than
Canon's own 1.7x telextender. If going this route, get the larger of the
two styles of 1.7x telextender offered by Sony so you don't lose any
aperture at all at the widest f/stops.

From: Paul Furman on
infiniteMPG wrote:
>> If so, you wasted your money - again. Maybe in future you should use your limited budget to buy fewer items, but better quality?
>
> Could you recommend a "good" lens in the 500mm-800mm range

I've got a 500mm f/4.5 that I'd sell for $250. It's got some chromatic
aberrations (color fringing) but otherwise quite sharp. It was something
like a $2,000 lens back in the 70's. I paid $500 with a huge tripod but
I want the tripod. The design is non-telephoto so it's really big &
heavy. 'Telephoto' means a lens is designed to be shorter than the
stated focal length implies. Century Teleathenar. I decided my Tokina
300mm f/2.8 with teleconverter is a little sharper (and smaller) but
that's a more expensive lens, so not surprising I guess.

> and a
> "good" magnifier that a normal "working Joe" can afford that won't
> cost ten times what my camera cost or require me to trade my car in
> for?
>

From: Grimly Curmudgeon on
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember infiniteMPG <57classic(a)gmail.com>
saying something like:

>Could you recommend a "good" lens in the 500mm-800mm range and a
>"good" magnifier that a normal "working Joe" can afford that won't
>cost ten times what my camera cost or require me to trade my car in
>for?

Have a look at http://forum.mflenses.com/ and

http://forum.manualfocus.org/index.php

for some recommendations on good lenses that might not bankrupt you.
There's a lot of them out there.

As for the magnifier - if you have a Canon, the old Pentax VF magnifiers
fit them and there's a current Nikon one does too, iirc.