From: SMS on
Peabody wrote:

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> Canon XSi with 18-55mm IS kit lens - $560
> 50mm 1.8 lens - $100
> other lenses
> filters
> lens hood
> extra battery
> SD cards
> camera bag
> tripod
> off-camera flash, lights, other lighting equipment
> software - raw processing and general editing
> software - HDR, pano
> books?

Wait on the lights. Wait on the 50mm 1.8 lens. Get the two IS lens kit.

The other stuff isn't expensive. Get your filters from
"http://www.2filter.com" or
"http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.lens%20filters" though I
can't vouch for the latter's quality, and the former is in a dispute
with Hoya over Hoya's illegal attempts to control retail pricing.

Often there are after-market hoods as good as the Canon hoods for much
less. See "http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.lens%20hood"

You don't need an expensive carbon-fiber tripod, you can get a good
tripod/ball head for $64 from
"http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15247"

For editing software, you can probably get by with Photoline which is
only $75. "http://www.pl32.com/". It's very capable, nearly as good as
Photoshop (and better in some ways).

For batteries get them from "http://sterlingtek.com"

Remember, once you have the initial investment done you're not spending
much on it like in the olden days. The most important thing is to get a
good D-SLR and lenses, the rest of the ecosystem you can build up over
time, and you don't have to buy everything top-of-the-line to start.
From: SMS on
Peabody wrote:

> There was one comment about Nikon being better that Canon for old,
> inexpensive lenses. I don't understand that.

Neither did the person that posted it. There are a lot of older Nikon
lenses that won't work on current Nikon D-SLRs even though they'll fit
physically. Ironically, some of these lenses _will_ work on a Canon
D-SLR with an adapter, in manual mode.

You can see a chart here: "http://www.nikonians.org/nikon/slr-lens.html"

Note that some older Nikon lenses will work on some Nikon D-SLRs, some
won't (depends if the D-SLR has a focusing motor for the lenses that are
mechanically driven from the camera body). Also, some lenses can be sent
out to be modified to work.

It's safe to say that with a mid-level Canon or Nikon D-SLR you're
unlikely to be using 25 year old lenses for either one.
From: Floyd L. Davidson on
SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote:
>Peabody wrote:
>
>> There was one comment about Nikon being better that
>> Canon for old, inexpensive lenses. I don't understand
>> that.
>
>Neither did the person that posted it. There are a lot of older Nikon
>lenses that won't work on current Nikon D-SLRs even though they'll fit
>physically. Ironically, some of these lenses _will_ work on a Canon
>D-SLR with an adapter, in manual mode.
>
>You can see a chart here: "http://www.nikonians.org/nikon/slr-lens.html"
>
>Note that some older Nikon lenses will work on some Nikon D-SLRs, some
>won't (depends if the D-SLR has a focusing motor for the lenses that are
>mechanically driven from the camera body). Also, some lenses can be sent
>out to be modified to work.
>
>It's safe to say that with a mid-level Canon or Nikon D-SLR you're
>unlikely to be using 25 year old lenses for either one.

Unless of course you are good at photography and
actually know what you're doing. In that case it is not
at all unreasonable to use 30+ year old lenses for some
purposes, even with entry level bodies.
Photomacrography, studio portraiture, and landscapes
would be the more obvious candidates.

However, the idea that anyone is going to use a Nikon
mount lense on a Canon camera with an adaptor is...
relatively ignorant of the just exactly what you get (a
stop down lens).

--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd(a)apaflo.com
From: nospam on
In article <87iqauezn7.fld(a)apaflo.com>, Floyd L. Davidson
<floyd(a)apaflo.com> wrote:

> However, the idea that anyone is going to use a Nikon
> mount lense on a Canon camera with an adaptor is...
> relatively ignorant of the just exactly what you get (a
> stop down lens).

and one that's not all that accurate as canon's stop down metering is
not linear.