From: Neil Harrington on

"Wilba" <usenet(a)CUTTHISimago.com.au> wrote in message
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> Neil Harrington wrote:
>> Wilba wrote:
>>>
>>> Years ago I read that left-hand drive is safer overall, because when a
>>> person is startled they tend to raise their non-dominant hand to protect
>>> their head.
>>
>> I question that. In the only near-head-on accident I ever had in my life,
>> I instinctively threw up my right hand (the dominant one) just before
>> impact. Broke my right wrist on the windshield.
>
> I have more faith in a statistical analysis of scientific data than in a
> single anecdote. :- )

I would too if it really were a statistical analysis of scientific data.
Without having seen such analysis I'm inclined to doubt it. Ask a hundred
people to pick something up from the table, and see which hand they use.
I'll bet 128,000 zorkmids most of 'em use the dominant hand, unless they
have a beer in it. ;-)


From: Neil Harrington on

"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:03:47 -0500, "Neil Harrington"
> <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>>>
>>> It seems we left our history far behind. Have you ever noticed where the
>>> good old Wells Fargo stage coach driver sat, ...on the right, shotgun on
>>> the left.
>>
>>Apparently that was the standard arrangement for all horse and buggy
>>drivers
>>too. (Going by the movies, anyway.)
>>
>>And it's still the standard position for whoever's steering a power boat.
>>
>>At least some of the earliest American automobiles had right-hand drive
>>also. Now I'm wondering where and why left-hand drive got started. Perhaps
>>it was because the gearshift was centrally located, and it's more natural
>>to
>>work that with the dominant hand, which for 90% of people is the right
>>one.
>>
>
> Blame Napoleon. He laid down the law for France and at the beginning
> of the 20th century France dominated the automobile industry.

But sans Napoleon.


From: Neil Harrington on

"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
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> On 2009-11-14 17:01:56 -0800, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> said:
>
>>
>> "George Kerby" <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:C724AB44.3856A%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/14/09 9:03 AM, in article
>>> 8LudnUMIR_9IW2PXnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d(a)giganews.com, "Neil Harrington"
>>> <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:2009111401130782327-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems we left our history far behind. Have you ever noticed where
>>>>> the
>>>>> good old Wells Fargo stage coach driver sat, ...on the right, shotgun
>>>>> on
>>>>> the left.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently that was the standard arrangement for all horse and buggy
>>>> drivers
>>>> too. (Going by the movies, anyway.)
>>>>
>>>> And it's still the standard position for whoever's steering a power
>>>> boat.
>>
>> Did the Indians frequently attack power boats?
>
> Only in the Spring.

And Indian Summer. They hated noisy outboards and water skiers especially.


From: Bob Larter on
Bill Graham wrote:
>
> "Bob Larter" <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4afe7080$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> Bill Graham wrote:
>>>
>>> "J�rgen Exner" <jurgenex(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:r48sf5hvnn2lu320s5prvsp7agi8aar9ff(a)4ax.com...
>>>> "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> wrote:
>>>>> As a unit of liquid measure, the cup is what it is and does not
>>>>> have any
>>>>> particular relationship to the amount of coffee you're served in a
>>>>> cup.
>>>>
>>>> Then if the unit "cup" doesn't have a relationship to a cup of beverage
>>>> then what is the specific benefit of having that unit "cup" instead of
>>>> using e.g 1/4 liter?
>>>>
>>>> jue
>>>
>>> None. It's just a slang term. Actually, when it comes to a cup of
>>> coffee, it's usually closer to 1/4 liter than a cup, which is 1/4 of
>>> a quart. You have to remember that the world is 99% housewives, and
>>> only 1% engineers.
>>
>> A metric cup *is* 1/4 of a liter.
>>
> The most common coffee cup used here in the US is the Corning, "Correll
> Ware" cup, and it is almost exactly 250 cc's.

Well, there you go. You're already used to one common metric measure.

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From: Bob Larter on
Savageduck wrote:
> On 2009-11-14 16:44:39 -0800, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> said:
>
>>
>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
>> news:2009111406385244303-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom...
>>> On 2009-11-14 04:27:19 -0800, "Wilba" <usenet(a)CUTTHISimago.com.au> said:
>>>
>>>> Savageduck wrote:
>>>>> Savageduck said:
>>>>>> Wilba said:
>>>>>>> Savageduck wrote:
>>>>>>>> Wilba said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Years ago I read that left-hand drive is safer overall, because
>>>>>>>>> when a
>>>>>>>>> person is startled they tend to raise their non-dominant hand to
>>>>>>>>> protect
>>>>>>>>> their head. If at the time they are steering a car on the left
>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>> road, 9 out of 10 will therefore sverve into oncoming traffic.
>>>>>>>>> Apparently the effect is statistically significant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems we left our history far behind. Have you ever noticed
>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> good old Wells Fargo stage coach driver sat, ...on the right,
>>>>>>>> shotgun
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the left.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't see many of them 'round these here parts. :- )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note the driver on the left.
>>>>>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Concord_stagecoach_1869.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, that was the right, the shot gun was on the left.
>>>>> Now I don't know my left from my right!
>>>>
>>>> I worked that out. :- )
>>>>
>>>> I wonder why they did it that way, since the driver is on the ejector
>>>> side...? Maybe the convention pre-dates the widespread use of repeating
>>>> rifles.
>>>
>>> I think it was a case of right handed shotgun shooters out numbering
>>> left handed shooters. That way they wouldn't have to replace a driver
>>> every time a left handed guard blew the driver away. Maybe a
>>> qualification for shotgun guards was to be right handed.
>>>
>>> Maybe there was a rule of the road that stagecoach robbers had a "rob
>>> from left side" only sense of etiquette. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Savageduck
>>>
>> Maybe it had something to do with which side the shells were ejected
>> from when the rifle action was worked....It would be very annoying to
>> the driver if the hot shell casings were ejected into his face while
>> he was trying to get away from the bad guys.....
>
> A left handed shotgun guard would be pointing his shotgun at the driver
> on the left, when sitting on the right side, instead of pointing it
> safely off to the right.
> In any sort of a fight who cares where the empty cases go?

Dunno about you, but I'd prefer them not to go flying towards my pants.

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