From: Ray Fischer on
George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote:
>> Gary Theilsen <nocontact(a)spamfree.com> wrote:
>>> "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net>

>>>> If you want to smoke, that's your business. But, don't screw up my lungs
>>>> with your second hand smoke.
>>>
>>> You need to watch Penn & Teller's cable show called "Bullshit!", the
>>> episode where they cover this issue. Are you aware that not even ONE person
>>> has ever died from second-hand smoke?
>>
>> Smirk. That sound a lot like the claims of robacco companies who
>> insist that there's no evidence proving that tobacco causes cancer.
>> Or the classic "guns don't kill people ...".
>
>Again, Fish-Head,

Obviously, you are unable to reply in a manner that would be considered
reasonable to most folks: Just insults like a spoiled five year old. You
just can't do any better. Sad.
kerby in Message-ID: <C5BC8977.2207B%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com>

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From: Savageduck on
On 2010-01-01 17:43:14 -0800, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) said:

> Gary Theilsen <nocontact(a)spamfree.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 18:38:41 -0500, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you want to smoke, that's your business. But, don't screw up my lungs
>>> with your second hand smoke.
>>
>> You need to watch Penn & Teller's cable show called "Bullshit!", the
>> episode where they cover this issue. Are you aware that not even ONE person
>> has ever died from second-hand smoke?
>
> Smirk. That sound a lot like the claims of robacco companies who
> insist that there's no evidence proving that tobacco causes cancer.
> Or the classic "guns don't kill people ...".

"rob acco" I like that. It says it all.

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Regards,

Savageduck

From: Bill Graham on

"David J. Littleboy" <davidjl(a)gol.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Gary Theilsen" <nocontact(a)spamfree.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 18:38:41 -0500, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>If you want to smoke, that's your business. But, don't screw up my lungs
>>>with your second hand smoke.
>>
>> You need to watch Penn & Teller's cable show called "Bullshit!", the
>> episode where they cover this issue. Are you aware that not even ONE
>> person
>> has ever died from second-hand smoke?
>
> That's simply quite wrong. The amount of excess morbidity and mortality
> due to second hand smoke is small, but definately not zero. The worst
> victims are spouses and children of smokers. (I think that the problem of
> paying for the medical care of smokers is serious enough that second hand
> smoke issue isn't worth worrying about, though.)
>
> It's a well documented problem. You could read about it and learn if you
> wanted instead of taking an entertainment show at face value.
>
> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/secondhandsmoke.html
>
> --
> David J. Littleboy
> Tokyo, Japan
>
>
weg9 says: I can believe that its not zero, but I seriously question some
of the wild statistics that the Cancer society people put out.....Especially
one about the children that was ridiculous......How do they know how many
children die from second hand smoke?....If their parents smoke, then they
are dying from first hand smoke. and how many parents don't smoke until
after the baby is born, and then suddenly take up smoking a pack and a half
a day?

From: Bill Graham on

"Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message
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> "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
>> news:2010010117333643658-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom...
>>> On 2010-01-01 17:17:30 -0800, Gary Theilsen <nocontact(a)spamfree.com>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 18:38:41 -0500, "Peter"
>>>> <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to smoke, that's your business. But, don't screw up my
>>>>> lungs
>>>>> with your second hand smoke.
>>>>
>>>> You need to watch Penn & Teller's cable show called "Bullshit!", the
>>>> episode where they cover this issue. Are you aware that not even ONE
>>>> person
>>>> has ever died from second-hand smoke? All of this started by one biased
>>>> and
>>>> badly done research paper that was later dismissed in court as lacking
>>>> any
>>>> factual evidence at all. Penn & Teller are not even smokers,
>>>> drug-users,
>>>> nor drinkers, but they will try to uncover and defend the truth
>>>> whenever
>>>> possible as much as possible. They are taking up where Houdini left off
>>>> in
>>>> exposing frauds and charlatans that use trickery to manipulate and
>>>> exploit
>>>> a gullible audience. They know all about how that works (on an
>>>> entertainment stage for entertainment purposes only) so they are now
>>>> using
>>>> that knowledge to expose those that use trickery and manipulation
>>>> tactics
>>>> for ill-gotten gains. Like the smoke banning issue. Do you know how
>>>> much
>>>> money is being had by the drug-companies in advertising their "stop
>>>> smoking" drugs, some of the "side effects" from their drugs so terrible
>>>> that they kill, or permanently damage people worse than cigarettes ever
>>>> could.
>>>>
>>>> Go educate yourself instead of parroting all other control-freaks'
>>>> paranoid
>>>> nonsense and stupidity.
>>>
>>> So, second hand smoke isn't going to kill me. I'll buy that.
>>>
>>> Now tell me how second hand smoke isn't going to make me choke & cough,
>>> my eyes water, my clothes stink, and any other unpleasantness
>>> non-smokers would have to endure so those addicted to a corporate drug
>>> can indulge themselves.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Savageduck
>>>
>>
>> weg9 says: If you really believe its a drug, then why are you happy
>> letting your government deal in it? Either make a law against it, or
>> believe what I believe.....That everyone should be allowed access to any
>> drug they want anytime they want it. (Including prescription drugs)
>
>
> Do you drink alcohol?
>
> --
> Peter
weg9 says: Yes, but I am not addicted to it. I drink about one beer every
two or three months, and perhaps one martini or bloody Mary a year......for
one thing, I take glyburide for my diabetes, and it is incompatible with
alcohol. I am, however addicted to cigarettes......I haven't smoked a
cigarette since July 31st, 1983, but I know that I am still addicted to
them.....All it would take is one cig, and I would be back on a pack and a
half a day in about two weeks......Why do you ask? I would not support a law
against either tobacco or alcohol, any more than I support laws against pot
or any other drug. I think it is deplorable that when I was young all my
favorite movie stars and athletes both drank and smoked, and it was heavily
advertised. I have had many friends die of both drinking and smoking as a
result. I am all in favor of my government researching the ill effects of
drugs and advertising against them. But I am still a libertarian when it
comes to laws......I don't believe it is the government's business to make
laws against stuff for, "our own good."

From: Bill Graham on

"Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message
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> they is us.
>
> --
> Peter
weg9 says: I've heard that, but I have a hell of a time identifying with
all those lawyers in Washington DC.......I would be a lot quicker to say,
"they is us", if they were picked by random out of a hat containing all the
eligible people in the US.....As long as they are buying their places with
the money they got from being bribed by insurance companies, I don't I can
really say, "they is us".