From: NameHere on
On 28 Dec 2009 18:41:35 GMT, ray <ray(a)zianet.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:31:12 -0800, Frank wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:51:10 -0800, Ockham's Razor <Mencken(a)pdx.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <vgohj5154n2o4hun2ikmpfl47mvj9agvpq(a)4ax.com>,
>>> Frank(a)Zappa.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I post saying something about Islam,
>>>> it does not match up w/ what Wiki says,so... I am a hate-filled bigot!
>>>>
>>>> I'm not really, I just know a little more than is on the Wiki entry on
>>>> Islam. That's not hard to do - the page is does not go into great
>>>> detail.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, Islam is having an impact on "our" world that will affect our
>>>> ability to freely point our cameras where we wish.
>>>>
>>>> As for my cowardly anonymous posting, I don't need everybody knowing
>>>> my real name.
>>>> Nowadays that's not a good idea, for many reasons.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>OK.
>>>
>>>Now, just what does this rant have to do with digital photography?
>>
>>
>> 1 - More Islamists mucking about, saying "get that camera out of here
>> before I smash it!" 2 - More Police mucking about, saying "you are under
>> arrest for suspicious photography" while being mistaken for a terrorist,
>> although you are actually a local.
>
>Didn't realize the police were muslims.

They don't have to be. All they or anyone needs to do is allow all muslims,
christians, and jews to manipulate them into creating new laws, so they all
act, think, and behave just like all christians, muslims, and jews.

"Authority isn't something someone else has. It is something that you have
freely, foolishly and irresponsibly given away -- all by your little self."

From: NameHere on
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:43:23 -0800 (PST), RichA <rander3127(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Dec 28, 12:01�pm, Fr...(a)Zappa.com wrote:
>> I post saying something about Islam,
>> it does not match up w/ what Wiki says,so...
>> I am a hate-filled bigot!
>
>Many people posting on wikipedia are agenda-driven, not fact-driven.
>Like the global warming kooks who keep frantically re-writing entries
>dealing with climate change. Propagandists for sinister groups.
>Until that site gets some kind of oversight, it will continue to be a
>bit of a joke in some instances.

"The 'truth' is any perception of reality that one or more people have
where they can successfully manipulate others into accepting that
perception as their own 'truth'. That is all that 'truth' is, that is all
that 'truth' has ever been. And that's the truth."

From: NameHere on
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:01:18 -0800, Frank(a)Zappa.com wrote:

>I post saying something about Islam,
>it does not match up w/ what Wiki says,so...
>I am a hate-filled bigot!
>
>I'm not really, I just know a little more than is on the Wiki entry on Islam.
>That's not hard to do - the page is does not go into great detail.
>
>Anyway, Islam is having an impact on "our" world that will affect our
>ability to freely point our cameras where we wish.
>

They will only have an impact on you if you allow them to manipulate you,
as they are doing now in this very thread. Just like any child in tantrum,
screaming for attention, the best solution is to walk away and ignore they
even exist until they learn more adult methods for getting attention.
Giving all the cultures of the middle-east the attention they want is only
encouraging all of them to continue to behave as childishly as they have
for the last 3000 years.

I, for one, refuse to let them manipulate me into anything in life. I
change the news channel, I killfile those threads. They don't deserve even
this much attention.

You will never be free as long as you allow yourself to be manipulated by
politicians and religious leaders. And those who are manipulated by them.

From: Bill Graham on

"John A." <john(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
news:0hdij5l3vh7frqbvseqmuvtraqsttuh499(a)4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:09:40 -0800, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"ray" <ray(a)zianet.com> wrote in message
>>news:7psceuFoqtU19(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>> 1 - More Islamists mucking about, saying "get that camera out of here
>>>> before I smash it!" 2 - More Police mucking about, saying "you are
>>>> under
>>>> arrest for suspicious photography" while being mistaken for a
>>>> terrorist,
>>>> although you are actually a local.
>>>
>>> Didn't realize the police were muslims.
>>
>>weg9 says:
>>Well, their actions support it, so open your eyes......The FAA response to
>>the recent bombing attempt was to limit your carry-ons to just one bag
>>each,
>>and refuse to allow you to have a blanket.....So go figure.......What has
>>either one of these things to do with some Jihadist strapping a bomb to
>>his
>>leg? It would seem to me that the terrorists have managed to recruit our
>>policemen and turn them into idiots......
>
> IIRC, the guy carried on his bomb as multiple components which he
> mixed/assembled/whatever under a blanket.
>
> I guess the single-bag limit is intended to make it easier to spot an
> assemblage of items that could make up a bomb. The no-blanket rule
> should be obvious.

Obvious to you, perhaps....To me, you can assemble anything under your coat
that can be assembled under a blanket....Or in the rest room. This guy's own
father turned him in to the FBI several days before he did what he did. It's
obvious to me that our air police are a bunch of nincompoops...

From: Michael on
On 2009-12-28 12:01:18 -0500, Frank(a)Zappa.com said:

> I post saying something about Islam,
> it does not match up w/ what Wiki says,so...
> I am a hate-filled bigot!
>
> I'm not really, I just know a little more than is on the Wiki entry on Islam.
> That's not hard to do - the page is does not go into great detail.
>
> Anyway, Islam is having an impact on "our" world that will affect our
> ability to freely point our cameras where we wish.
>
> As for my cowardly anonymous posting, I don't need everybody knowing my
> real name.
> Nowadays that's not a good idea, for many reasons.
>
> thanks
> Frank

It's the P&S Troll! Another new name, a different cause. Trolling just
the same.
--
Michael