From: tony cooper on
On Sun, 2 May 2010 22:48:31 -0700, Savageduck
<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

>On 2010-05-02 22:31:53 -0700, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> said:
>
>> On Sun, 2 May 2010 21:03:49 -0700, Savageduck
>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> You do? Who are these "upper echelon" people?
>>>
>>> Where do you want to start? The Papacy, The College of Cardinals,
>>
>> Get serious, Duck. Who has any idea of what the College of Cardinals
>> do except when its puff-of-smoke-time?
>
>They play upper management to the diocese.

A Cardinal, in the Catholic church, is a level of the hierarchy of the
church. A Cardinal may be in charge of a diocese or an archdiocese.
All Cardinals are members of the College of Cardinals, but the College
is only convened on the death of a Pope or when the Pope summons them
for a consistory (a special meeting). That's a rare event.

The College of Cardinals does not oversee any diocese. Only the
individual Cardinal in the hierarchy of that diocese does.

>>
>> I even had to look it up to see if the "the" is capitalized. It
>> isn't.
>
>Who cares whether they capitalize "the" or not

I do. If I'm going to write something, I'm going to write it the
correct way. You can write it any way you want.

>They are part of the upper management.

Not really. There's no hands-on management by the College of any
diocese. They form, in essence, a board of directors for the CEO of
the church: the Pope. However, their powers are much more limited
than most boards of directors.


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Alan on
On May 3, 5:07 am, "Atheist Chaplain" <abu...(a)cia.gov> wrote:

Message not aimed at any_one.

Writing from Google Groups - I abandoned this thread a while ago and
even filtered it out thinking it would take a few days to burn out.

But no - it burns on...

Did anyone win?

Didn't think so ....

Back to cameras anyone - in a new thread?
From: Peter on
"Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> wrote in message
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>

> Yes, within reasonable limits. Some conditions are astronomically
> expensive to treat, and the money has to come from somewhere. Insurance
> companies on average have only about a 3.5% profit margin, so despite the
> steady complaints from Obama & Co. about "greedy insurance companies,"
> there is really not much to be saved by squeezing them harder.

3.5% of what number?
Can you tell me how these profits are calculated?
what profits are you referring to?
Profits calculated for stockholder purposes/
Profits calculated for regulatory rate making purposes?
Profits calculated for tax purposes?
You do realize they are not all the same. Please tell me how contract
acquisition costs are treated in calculating your profit margin.
How are reinsurance treaties and executive compensating figured into the
equation?

Inquiring minds want to know. Please don't be like others and tell me to
research the answer. I already know and just need to know if we are
discussing the same thing.



--
Peter

From: Peter on
"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 2 May 2010 21:03:49 -0700, Savageduck
> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>>> You do know that "bigotry" is the obstinate or intolerant devotion to
>>> one's own opinions and prejudices? Atheists who are intolerant of the
>>> religious can be bigots.
>>
>>Agreed.
>>I believe those of faith are free to worship as they please.
>
> The gist of your rant was that the "betrayed" should abandon their
> religion. If they want to continue to be a member of that religion,
> even though that religion holds them to be wrong on this issue,
> shouldn't they be free to worship as they please? Where is your
> tolerance?
>
>>>> I find myself comfortable as an atheist, not having to favor one
>>>> religion over another.
>>>
>>> So am I. However, I would never suggest to someone else that they
>>> should leave their religion or question why they don't. That seems
>>> exceedingly presumptious to me.
>>
>>I would only suggest that move if the person in question is being
>>tormented by that religion and leaving the religion is the only action
>>which makes sense.
>
> Makes sense to who? It doesn't make a damn bit of difference if it
> makes sense or not to you. It's what makes sense to *them* that
> counts.
>
> The hypocrisy of the whole thing is that we have the devoutly
> religious who want the rest of us to do as they want, and then we have
> the unreligious who want the religious people to change.
>
> I don't really see a difference between a bible-thumper who says "I
> suggest you become religious" and a nonreligious person saying "I
> suggest you leave your religion". They are both proselytizing.
>
Agreed. In this small group we have a professed atheist who worships. In the
vast majority of his posts he refers to his money.

--
Peter

From: tony cooper on
On Mon, 03 May 2010 19:29:24 -0400, tony cooper
<tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 2 May 2010 22:48:31 -0700, Savageduck
><savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2010-05-02 22:31:53 -0700, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> said:
>>
>>> On Sun, 2 May 2010 21:03:49 -0700, Savageduck
>>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You do? Who are these "upper echelon" people?
>>>>
>>>> Where do you want to start? The Papacy, The College of Cardinals,
>>>
>>> Get serious, Duck. Who has any idea of what the College of Cardinals
>>> do except when its puff-of-smoke-time?
>>
>>They play upper management to the diocese.
>
>A Cardinal, in the Catholic church, is a level of the hierarchy of the
>church. A Cardinal may be in charge of a diocese or an archdiocese.
>All Cardinals are members of the College of Cardinals, but the College
>is only convened on the death of a Pope or when the Pope summons them
>for a consistory (a special meeting). That's a rare event.
>

Hoist on my own petard. I should not of capitalized the word
"cardinal" above. The word is capitalized when it is used as part of
a title (Cardinal Jones or College of Cardinals) but not when it
refers to a job description.


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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida