From: nm5k on
On May 5, 7:46 pm, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

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> Also in California, convicted felons cannot possess, or have access to
> firearms or ammunition even after completion of parole.

Far as I know, that applies to all 50 states. It's a federal thang..
Some have been able to get gun rights restored, but it's an
ordeal.
From: nm5k on
On May 5, 5:29 pm, Jeff Jones <jj197109...(a)mailinator.com> wrote:

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> >Felons don't have the right to own weapons, or vote, and there are other
> >rights they don't have.
>
> Not true. You can still hunt with and own firearms. I spent a season
> camping at a hunter's-camp one time that was owned by felons. We had an
> interesting discussion on what kinds of firearms they are allowed. They
> sold all sorts of fun "toys" in their tourist shop. There are only certain
> types of firearms not allowed. The Bill of Rights applies to EVERYONE. I
> bet a black-powder burn will hurt just as bad if not more as you are dying.


I don't think that is right, and I know that there are no distinctions
made between different types of firearms. If you are a felon, and
have not had the rights restored, you can't own ANY firearms.
Period. I think anyone that is telling you otherwise is mistaken.
Not I that I totally agree with it, but that's where it is..
Myself, I think only violent felony offenders should lose their
rights. I don't think it should apply to non violent felons.
But at this time, it does.. :(
I think they should bar violent offenders, but I think non violent
felons should be able to have their rights restored after a
period of time.. Say 5 years good behavior, or whatever.
But I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it to happen.
And besides, being as I'm not a felon, I can own all the guns
I want, and I do own a few. :)



From: Peter on
"Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> wrote in message
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> Unless they are suddenly afflicted by a severe attack of Humpty Dumptyism
> (or a couple more Obama radical-lib appointees, which effectively amounts
> to the same thing), they will not.
>

Exactly which "radical-lib" was appointed by our President? Which
decision[s] made prior to appointment, of his one appointee do you object
to?

--
Peter

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>> I must be missing something here. What on earth is the evil and unlawful
>> thing about a firearm being colored bright green or bright orange?
>> (Bright pink would be OK, I suppose?)
>
> Toy guns are marked with orange and green plastic, such as a thick orange
> band around the end of the barrel, so police know the gun is a toy and not
> to mistakenly fire on someone who is holding a toy. If real weapons were
> colored like that, the police would then think a real weapon is a toy.

Ah! Now that reminds me of something:

Several years ago a little girl, I think about seven or eight, was expelled
or suspended for bringing a water pistol to school. I believe this was in
Chicago but am not sure. There was a video clip of the miscreant on TV, and
I remember her, near tears, saying "It was just a squirt gun," in obvious
puzzlement as to why she was being punished in this way.

The principal or some other school official was interviewed about it, and
explained that the punishment was called for because the other children
might have mistaken it for a real gun and become traumatized, and the school
had to act to prevent blah blah blah blah.

Then they showed a shot of the offending weapon. It was a little water
pistol made of orange TRANSLUCENT plastic with some green plastic parts. No
one but a monumentally stupid, officious pecksniff of a bureaucrat could
possibly have imagined it something that could have been "mistaken for a
real gun."

But yes, I guess that actually is the explanation for the orange and green
business.


From: Neil Harrington on
nm5k(a)wt.net wrote:
> On May 5, 7:46 pm, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Also in California, convicted felons cannot possess, or have access
>> to firearms or ammunition even after completion of parole.
>
> Far as I know, that applies to all 50 states. It's a federal thang..

Yep. Every time I bought a handgun at a dealer's, one of the forms I had to
fill out was a federal one asking among several other things if I'd ever
been convicted of a felony. All the questions on that form had to be
answered "No" or the dealer couldn't make the sale.

I haven't bought a gun for years now and don't know if that's still the
case, but it was for many, many years.

> Some have been able to get gun rights restored, but it's an
> ordeal.

So I understand. I've read that even when rights are restored by whatever
government authority does that, the BATF may not allow a gun purchase and
that's that (unless you're a friend of a powerful politician, probably).