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"Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> wrote in message
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> "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> "Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> In New England gun laws vary a lot from one little state to the next.
>>> Massachusetts and Rhode Island are very tough about guns, Connecticut
>>> has been getting tough, the other three states are generally pretty
>>> relaxed.
>>>
>> IIRC, in New York City, you couldn't even own a gun in your own home
>> during the years I lived there....(from 1935 to 1952) Judging from how
>> liberal they are there, I doubt if the law has changed at all......Bernie
>> Goetz doesn't even live there anymore.....
>
> When I was a kid on Long Island (1930 to 1945) most of the kids I knew had
> guns in their homes, sometimes many guns. Whether they were legal or not I
> don't know, but if not it didn't matter much as there was none of the
> anti-gun hysteria we've had since the '60s.
>
> In those days there was still the big Bannerman's store in NYC. Are you
> familiar with Bannerman's? They sold all sorts of arms, armor, ammunition,
> uniforms, etc., picked up from the battlefields of the world or bought
> cheap from governments that were upgrading their equipment and selling off
> their old stuff. Bannerman's had a huge catalog and all sorts of stuff in
> the store, and a lot more on Bannerman's private island in the Hudson.
> They had everything from suits of armor and lances to sabers, cannon and
> Gatling guns. And a great deal of Civil War equipment.
>
> A friend of mine (about 15 at the time) went in to the city and at
> Bannerman's bought a Joslyn single-shot carbine, a Civil War weapon that
> took the same .56 rimfire cartridges as the Spencer repeating carbine of
> the period. He also bought an original pack of seven cartridges (that was
> the magazine capacity of the Spencer). We took the Joslyn out to a nearby
> meadows to try it out. The 80-year-old cartridges still went off with a
> satisfying boom and cloud of black-powder smoke, and hit the old sign he'd
> picked as a target about 100 yards away. Gun and cartridges had only cost
> him a few dollars. Of course he had to carry them home via subway and then
> the L.I.R.R. -- nobody cared about such things in those days; high school
> and college students on rifle teams in the city used to carry their target
> rifles on the subway.
>
> Alas, I guess we will never see such days again. It was a much better and
> more innocent time.


If a legal gun owner on Long Island wants to go upstate to hunt, he must
wither risk violating NYC ordinances or take the ferry.

--
Peter
This is my rifle, this is my gun.
This is for fighting, the other for fun.

From: Neil Harrington on
nm5k(a)wt.net wrote:
> On May 5, 5:29 pm, Jeff Jones <jj197109...(a)mailinator.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> Felons don't have the right to own weapons, or vote, and there are
>>> other rights they don't have.
>>
>> Not true. You can still hunt with and own firearms. I spent a season
>> camping at a hunter's-camp one time that was owned by felons. We had
>> an interesting discussion on what kinds of firearms they are
>> allowed. They sold all sorts of fun "toys" in their tourist shop.
>> There are only certain types of firearms not allowed. The Bill of
>> Rights applies to EVERYONE. I bet a black-powder burn will hurt just
>> as bad if not more as you are dying.
>
>
> I don't think that is right, and I know that there are no distinctions
> made between different types of firearms. If you are a felon, and
> have not had the rights restored, you can't own ANY firearms.

That is my understanding too. But muzzle-loading weapons are not considered
"firearms" under the laws of my state, or federal law either as far as I
know. You can buy flintlock pistols and rifles, cap-and-ball revolvers,
etc., by mail order (or Internet of course) with no problem, generally
speaking, though there may be some local or state laws prohibiting this.


From: Neil Harrington on
Bill Graham wrote:
> "Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> wrote in message
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>> tony cooper wrote:
>>> On Thu, 6 May 2010 16:25:36 -0400, "Neil Harrington"
>>> <never(a)home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:hruv1g$brq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> "Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:grmdne439N7Lb3_WnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
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>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I must be missing something here. What on earth is the evil and
>>>>>> unlawful thing about a firearm being colored bright green or
>>>>>> bright orange? (Bright pink would be OK, I suppose?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Toy guns are marked with orange and green plastic, such as a thick
>>>>> orange band around the end of the barrel, so police know the gun
>>>>> is a toy and not to mistakenly fire on someone who is holding a
>>>>> toy. If real weapons were colored like that, the police would
>>>>> then think a real weapon is a toy.
>>>>
>>>> Ah! Now that reminds me of something:
>>>>
>>>> Several years ago a little girl, I think about seven or eight, was
>>>> expelled or suspended for bringing a water pistol to school. I
>>>> believe this was in Chicago but am not sure. There was a video clip
>>>> of the miscreant on TV, and I remember her, near tears, saying "It
>>>> was just a squirt gun," in obvious puzzlement as to why she was
>>>> being punished in this way.
>>>>
>>>> The principal or some other school official was interviewed about
>>>> it, and explained that the punishment was called for because the
>>>> other children might have mistaken it for a real gun and become
>>>> traumatized, and the school had to act to prevent blah blah blah
>>>> blah.
>>>>
>>>> Then they showed a shot of the offending weapon. It was a little
>>>> water pistol made of orange TRANSLUCENT plastic with some green
>>>> plastic parts. No one but a monumentally stupid, officious
>>>> pecksniff of a bureaucrat could possibly have imagined it
>>>> something that could have been "mistaken for a real gun."
>>>>
>>>> But yes, I guess that actually is the explanation for the orange
>>>> and green business.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You really can be an idiot at times. Do a Google search for
>>> "colored guns". Real guns that look like toy water pistols are for
>>> sale. Would you know these were real?
>>>
>>> http://www.doobybrain.com/2008/03/23/the-bloomberg-collection-real-guns-painted-to-look-like-toys/
>>
>> I love it. Bloomberg is a jerk and so are you.
>>
>> During a citizens' course at the local police department they showed
>> a water pistol (actually a faithful plastic copy of the Beretta
>> Model 86) that had been spray painted matte black, the apparent
>> reason being to make it suitable for use in a hold-up. Now that
>> makes sense, a pretend-real gun.
>>
>> I can't see much real point to doing the reverse, making a real gun
>> into a pretend-toy gun, but that evidently was not Lauer's reason
>> for the paint jobs anyway.
>>
>> Anything that annoys Bloomberg is fine with me, whatever the
>> motivation.
> Of course, you know the real reason for this toy gun business, don't
> you? In 1933 John Dillinger escaped from prison by using a toy gun,
> or one that he made himself by carving it out of a bar of soap or
> some such thing, and they are still so mad about that that they will
> make toy guns illegal for the rest of time....:^)

They would if they could. And even a toy gun isn't necessary to attract the
wrath of the anti-gun loonies. Some time ago I saw in the news that a little
kid in grammar school had been suspended for playing cops 'n' robbers or
something during recess. He said "Bang! Bang!" while pointing a forefinger
at a kid he was playing with -- HORRORS! -- that sort of behavior simply
cannot be tolerated!


From: Neil Harrington on
Savageduck wrote:
> On 2010-05-06 22:28:29 -0700, "Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> said:
>
>
>>
>> The Left Coast is hopeless I think, not even salvageable. We
>> probably should give California back to Mexico, which it seems to
>> have effectively become part of anyway. Among other benefits giving
>> it back would much improve the electoral college.
>
> Noooooooo!
> My Spanish is terrible to nonexistent. My Spanglish is
> uninterpretable.

Some provision should be made. I have a nephew on the Left Coast, and I
wouldn't want him subjected to the total Mexicization of California either.
But really, what are the state's prospects? Leftist-liberals and unions seem
to be succeeding in turning the state, for all its wealth and other
blessings, into an economic basket case.


From: Peter on
"Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> wrote in message
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> Some time ago I saw in the news that a little kid in grammar school had
> been suspended for playing cops 'n' robbers or something during recess. He
> said "Bang! Bang!" while pointing a forefinger at a kid he was playing
> with

If you do that do my daughter's dog, she rolls over on her back and sticks
all four feet in the air. (the dog, not my daughter.)



--
Peter