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From: Tim Forcer on 14 Oct 2008 08:44
On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:52 I wrote:

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> I am trying not to rely on Hybrio's supposed long-storage life, and to
> carry a spare set of cells at all times.

Wouldn't you know it? Just two days after I wrote that I got caught
out.

On Saturday, I took my camera and flash to a family gathering.
Because I knew the Hybrios in the flash had been there for several
months, and had been used for many dozens of flashes, I took a spare
set too. Sure enough, after ten or twelve flashes, the flash
recycling time became significant. Out with the old, in with the new.
One flash, flash dead - no recharge action at all.

Unfortunately, I hadn't packed my mini digital meter, and there's only
so much swapping of cells one can manage in an effort to find 4
vaguely-usable cells from a set of eight that must include at least
two completely flat cells.

Testing once back home showed one cell of the eight was really poor,
presumably one from the reserve set. Four more were in the
well-discharged area (but not absolutely empty), and three were low.
A "best" set of 4 gave only another dozen manual flashes.

So now I need to add "check all cell voltages in the spare set before
taking it out for use". Plus I'm being more careful about identifying
cells which aren't taking or keeping as much charge as their
set-mates. None of which will bring back the missed opportunities of
Saturday.

I'll carry on using the Hybrios, if only because they do seem to hold
part-charge better than standard NiMH, but I won't buy any more.

From: William Sommerwerck on 15 Oct 2008 07:04
> Wouldn't you know it? Just two days after I wrote
> I got caught out.

I've learned from experience to take a big pile o' freshly recharged
batteries when I go out to photograph. One advantage of this is that I can
leave the flash on all the time, not having to switch it on and off as I
take pictures.


From: Dave Plowman (News) on 15 Oct 2008 08:02
In article <csWdnSKf_9kJU2jVnZ2dnUVZ_tbinZ2d(a)comcast.com>,
William Sommerwerck <grizzledgeezer(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> > Wouldn't you know it? Just two days after I wrote
> > I got caught out.

> I've learned from experience to take a big pile o' freshly recharged
> batteries when I go out to photograph. One advantage of this is that I
> can leave the flash on all the time, not having to switch it on and off
> as I take pictures.

Indeed - which makes the self discharge rate pretty irrelevant. Especially
as even Ni-Cads aren't that bad.

--
*What was the best thing before sliced bread? *

Dave Plowman dave(a)davenoise.co.uk London SW
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From: Bruce on 15 Oct 2008 08:58
UCLAN <nomail(a)thanks.org> wrote:

>Tim Forcer wrote:
>
>> I'll carry on using the Hybrios, if only because they do seem to hold
>> part-charge better than standard NiMH, but I won't buy any more.
>
>Try one of the dozen or so alternative brands. I've has GREAT success
>with the Kodak LSD cells and the Sanyo Eneloop LSD cells.


Please define what you mean by "GREAT success".

In what way are these products superior to the Hybrios?

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